Need help identifying Table please

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Rjmoncrief

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Hello All!
I need a little help in identifying this home table. There is not a logo, name plate, or any other clear identifying marks on the table. It has a label on the bottom side (see pic) stating Carlo Giuffra Ardesie Original Italian Slate. At first I thought it was an American Heritage but I don't believe it is. It seems to be a little better constructed to me than the AH tables. Any input would be appreciated.
Thanks.....:thumbup:
 

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I'd say Olhausen...surprised it doesn't have a nameplate. The frame looks like Olhausen and they used to advertise original Italian slate.
 
cueenvy said:
I'd say Olhausen...surprised it doesn't have a nameplate. The frame looks like Olhausen and they used to advertise original Italian slate.
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That's Brazilian slate, and this question should be asked in the talk to a mechanic forum.
 
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It looks to have the OIS sticker" Original Italian Slate "on the bottom of the slate....;)

It's a imported piece of furniture.





Rob.M
 
cueenvy said:
And you should have completed your GED. It says "Original Italian Slate" on the sticker....Olhausen.
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My bad, I enlarged the photo so I could see it better....but I don't believe that has anything to do with a GED....do you, I deal with commercial pool tables not cheap home furniture.
 
realkingcobra said:
My bad, I enlarged the photo so I could see it better....but I don't believe that has anything to do with a GED....do you, I deal with commercial pool tables not cheap home furniture.
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I apologize for my question being in the wrong section.
Somebody beat me to the punch regarding the slate sticker.
Cheap furniture? You do realize that not all pool players want a COMMERCIAL pool table in their home, much less not being able to afford one.
I am amazed at some of the comments on this site as to the assumption that if it's not
either a GOLD CROWN or a DIAMOND then it's simply junk furniture.
I'm sure many will agree..........:scratchhead:

Thanks to those that answered my simple question that all I wanted was a simple
HELPFULL answer.
 
My first table was an 8 foot Olhausen. Of the "furniture tabkes" , they are one of the very best . The wife will like how it looks and you will like how they play. These can be bought used for well under 1000 dollars.
 
cueenvy said:
My first table was an 8 foot Olhausen. Of the "furniture tabkes" , they are one of the very best . The wife will like how it looks and you will like how they play. These can be bought used for well under 1000 dollars.
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Thanks!
This is what I got for $500 - along with the table!
Not bad huh ........:D

Should have rotated that pic!!
 

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Rjmoncrief said:
I apologize for my question being in the wrong section.
Somebody beat me to the punch regarding the slate sticker.
Cheap furniture? You do realize that not all pool players want a COMMERCIAL pool table in their home, much less not being able to afford one.
I am amazed at some of the comments on this site as to the assumption that if it's not
either a GOLD CROWN or a DIAMOND then it's simply junk furniture.
I'm sure many will agree..........:scratchhead:

Thanks to those that answered my simple question that all I wanted was a simple
HELPFULL answer.
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Any table manufacturer that uses T-nuts, embedded in the rails as a way of bolting the rails to the slate....is a joke today, as there are other was to accomplish that task without having to use a flawed system like that. I recently worked on a high priced Olhausen 9ft, taking it apart for only the third time since new....8 out of 18 rail bolt T-nuts' were either spinning with the rail bolt and had to drill off the head of the bolt to remove the rails, or they already had cut off bolts left in the rails and we're never repaired. Another Olhausen that I worked on before that one came out of a pool room, sold to a home owner...only had ONE bolt per rail holding on 5 rails, and the last end rail had 2 rail bolts holding it on....ALL OLHAUSEN tables are built the same way.
 
realkingcobra said:
Any table manufacturer that uses T-nuts, embedded in the rails as a way of bolting the rails to the slate....is a joke today, as there are other was to accomplish that task without having to use a flawed system like that. I recently worked on a high priced Olhausen 9ft, taking it apart for only the third time since new....8 out of 18 rail bolt T-nuts' were either spinning with the rail bolt and had to drill off the head of the bolt to remove the rails, or they already had cut off bolts left in the rails and we're never repaired. Another Olhausen that I worked on before that one came out of a pool room, sold to a home owner...only had ONE bolt per rail holding on 5 rails, and the last end rail had 2 rail bolts holding it on....ALL OLHAUSEN tables are built the same way.
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No rail attachment design is perfect.. The biggest problem with the T-nuts is not the design, but the people who abuse them. Even the threaded wood inserts that are commonly used today are not perfect. The rail attachment method is only as good as the person putting the table together.

The biggest difference between home tables and commercial tables is robustness in design. Home tables are not intended for multiple coverings. When you consider the market, probably 90% of home tables are originally purchased for decoration. It may get used a handful of times within the first year, but it eventually loses its appeal, and ends up on Craigslist. The manufacturers likely understand this, but there is no incentive to make a more robust design. It simply is not needed.

So, before anyone thinks that they are getting a great deal on a used furniture table, just understand the drawbacks.. The frame will likely have some sag in the middle (and will continue to sag), T-nuts may be non-functional, the MDF slate liners may be chewed out, the leather drop pockets may be destroyed, and the center pocket castings are likely missing a bolt on each side.

However, most issues can be corrected, so long as the person doing the work understands what the issues are. These fixes can be costly though, and could bring the total ownership cost above that of a more well-built table.
 
Fellas
it is better to be civil than arrogant

am I the only one who has made a purchase ,only to discover the faults and erriors of my ways

I usually like sympathy rather than rude words

That is why I love my wife and am having trouble with pool players

Don't worry about the section you used,you should find an answer here and might not
be the only guy to meet with jerks in reply

lots of people enjoy a good home table,your looks good and there is no reason that it won't be everything you need

dean
 
I'm nobody - but posting that question here is fine. "Need help identifying table" is a general question that could easily find an accurate answer here.
 
If you got all that for 500, you stole it.

Best way to deal with the nits is enjoy life and your table.
 
deanoc said:
Fellas, it is better to be civil than arrogant. Am I the only one who has made a purchase ,only to discover the faults and erriors of my ways. I usually like sympathy rather than rude words

That is why I love my wife and am having trouble with pool players

Don't worry about the section you used,you should find an answer here and might not be the only guy to meet with jerks in reply. Lots of people enjoy a good home table,your looks good and there is no reason that it won't be everything you need

dean
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Deanoc, the party you may be referring to, is known to be one of the best in the business of table set-up and repair. However, he may be the dead worst at communication skills. He routinely comes across as crude, rude and beligerant, and rarely has anything good to say about anything, or anybody! (but himself)

Most of the pool players I've known, can express themselves much, much better than he can, without sounding like know-it-all braggarts. Enjoy your new table sir..I think it looks great, even if its not a GC or a Diamond..Geoff, in post #14, made the most sense to me! :thumbup:
 
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