VNEA rules question

tbayplayer said:
I had a weird situation in 8 ball the other day. VNEA rules.

The player on the other team was on the 8 ball. I was stripes, still balls on the table. My opponent called a safety on the 8, no intention of pocketing it. He then had a change of his mind and marked the pocket with the patch. He made the 8 in the patched pocket. At no point did he ever undeclared a safety verbally to me.

Does he win or lose? Does marking the 8 with the patch with no verbal trump his safety call?
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They way I understand it, the requirement to use those ridiculous markers negates the need to verbally declare; so if he marked the pocket after the calling the safety, then the marking of the pocket takes precedence.

That said, he obviously wanted to pocket the eight ball, this kinda of "nitty" mentality is what is so irritating about "league players" ; combing the rule books in order to squeak out a win, on a technicality.

Love the game, love the competition, love getting better and the wins will come.
 
tbayplayer said:
I had a weird situation in 8 ball the other day. VNEA rules.

The player on the other team was on the 8 ball. I was stripes, still balls on the table. My opponent called a safety on the 8, no intention of pocketing it. He then had a change of his mind and marked the pocket with the patch. He made the 8 in the patched pocket. At no point did he ever undeclared a safety verbally to me.

Does he win or lose? Does marking the 8 with the patch with no verbal trump his safety call?
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Why on earth would you even question this? It's obvious he was going for the 8 by placing the patch.

Don't be 'that' guy. :mad:
 
tbayplayer said:
We are both really good players. Our league uses the patch. What is stupid to me is you can put the patch at any pocket, bounce it around 4 rails and if it goes in there, it counts....and you called safety.
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You are not both.....good players... Mutually good players agree...the patch is for people who try to win by cheating, it seems obvious that is what he was doing. what was the purpose of your question, a hope for a league win, hmmm?
 
tbayplayer said:
I never questioned to the player, never even mentioned it to the other player or talked about it. I was wondering for future reference if a safety call trumps the patch.

I am not that guy I'm a master player wanting to know a rule because if I go ref a match I know.
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If you are the ref....you walk over, they tell you they legally pocketed the ball in said pocket. If that pocket has the patch by it, they win.
 
tbayplayer said:
Ok thanks.
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Sorry, I have just seen a lot of douches try to win because, the patch wasn't there (straight in very obvious shot) or some other thing that is absurd. Character is hard to come by these days (apparently, I need to work on myself), I apologize for making those assumptions.
 
My first year of VNEA we had to use those stupid patches but nobody in league did. Get to state and they require it. I was an idiot and lost my first match that way and didn't forget the rest of the tournament. That being said I don't know why you would have to patch an obvious straight in shot and although it was a rule, I still thought lesser of my opponent for calling it on me. If it's questionable I get it but I call every questionable shot anyway.

Sorry for the rant, but since I've seen matches played with the patch and know a fair amount of refs... Patch trumps all. I could verbally call the shot in the side and forget to move the patch from last game and make it in the corner by the patch and I win. I've seen it happen lol.
 
REAL pool leagues do not require you to mark pockets.
REAL pool leagues try to use the same rules that the pros use.

Just sayin...
 
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