$2000 Bank Bend Challenge

Squerve

i am calling this the squerve shot, and I have accomplished this shot numerous times. This usually takes place at a critical time and with the cue ball squerving around any balls blocking a pocket in which it seems impossible to scratch on, I seem to be able to do this frequently, now I need a camera crew to follow me around !!!!
 
Robert Raiford said:
For those not too lazy for the rules rigamarole, here's a video of the best angle and speed to get the most bend on a side pocket bank:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95rg5zhrt44
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Good job!

Please submit an official entry per the rules and requirements on the $2000 Bank Bend Challenge website. I look forward to seeing the best you can do. Honestly, I didn't think anybody had a chance to get the $2000 prize; but based on your video, it certainly seems possible. And even if you don't get the $2000 prize, you should have a good chance at winning the $200.

Good luck,
Dave
 
Robert Raiford said:
For those not too lazy for the rules rigamarole, here's a video of the best angle and speed to get the most bend on a side pocket bank:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95rg5zhrt44

Cheers,
Robert
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Great shot Robert!!!

Let me say I like Bob & Dr. Dave, I have the utmost respect for both and I believe both to be honorable men.

With that said; I must say that I have an eerie feeling that somehow, something, someone is gonna stop the top prize from being paid out. Yes I know Robert did not completely follow the directions on Dr Dave's disclaimer video but I just have a feeling regardless of what is done a monkey wrench will appear somewhere. Don't know, maybe it's all the years around pool halls and pool people have completely jaded me. I hope this is not the case and wish the best of luck to Robert and everyone else giving it a go! Thanks Dr Dave and Bob for throwing up this challenge !
 
The key there is he banks early on the rail (looks like before the first diamond) to give him maximum distance to apply curve


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Nick B said:
The key there is he banks early on the rail (looks like before the first diamond) to give him maximum distance to apply curve. Good Physics is your friend.


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That's a great shot by Robert, the best so far by some margin and pretty darned close to taking the prize in my view.

Very well done, sir.
 
BmoreMoney said:
Great shot Robert!!!
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Agreed.

BmoreMoney said:
Let me say I like Bob & Dr. Dave, I have the utmost respect for both and I believe both to be honorable men.
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Thank you.

BmoreMoney said:
With that said; I must say that I have an eerie feeling that somehow, something, someone is gonna stop the top prize from being paid out. Yes I know Robert did not completely follow the directions on Dr Dave's disclaimer video but I just have a feeling regardless of what is done a monkey wrench will appear somewhere. Don't know, maybe it's all the years around pool halls and pool people have completely jaded me. I hope this is not the case and wish the best of luck to Robert and everyone else giving it a go! Thanks Dr Dave and Bob for throwing up this challenge !
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That is simply ridiculous. Bob and I have every intention to pay out the cash. And it is insulting when people (not just you, but several others) imply that we would go back on our word.

However, people need to follow the instructions we have provided. We aren't asking for much. Again the rules and regulations of the challenge are clearly described, illustrated, and demonstrated on the $2000 Bank Bend Challenge website. I don't know what else we can do to make it more clear other than post an example video of an official entry, which I plan to do later this week. And if anybody has any other suggestions, I'm all ears.

Good luck to those who intend to go for the cash by submitting an official and legitimate entry.

Regards,
Dave

PS: Again, even if nobody is able to beat the $2000 challenge, we will still pay out $200 to the person who bends a bank the most with an official and legitimate entry.
 
Nick B said:
The key there is he banks early on the rail (looks like before the first diamond) to give him maximum distance to apply curve
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And whoever has access to a 10' table will have an additional advantage with the extra distance.

I look forward to seeing what is possible with the best shot at the best angle with the best hit on the table with the most favorable conditions.

Good luck to all,
Dave
 
Since we are on a new page of the thread, I want to remind everybody again that official entries must abide by the rules and regulations clearly described, illustrated, and demonstrated on the $2000 Bank Bend Challenge website.

Good luck,
Dave
 
dr_dave said:
That is simply ridiculous. Bob and I have every intention to pay out the cash. And it is insulting when people (not just you, but several others) imply that we would go back on our word.
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You know what else is insulting?
When a Bank Pool Champion makes a claim, and almost quits the forums because some scientific minded skeptics who can't reproduce the Champions shot, make up excuses for what people are seeing, and dismiss it as a figment of everyone's imagination.

Yet they don't want their claims questioned?

That isn't to say you guys won't pay out the prize money.
I hope somebody snaps this off so it can die already.

But maybe it's just like what happened to John Brumback.
People won't believe you till they see it happen with their own eyes.

The irony.:rolleyes:
 
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SUPERSTAR said:
You know what else is insulting?
When a Bank Pool Champion makes a claim, and almost quits the forums because some scientific minded skeptics who can't reproduce the Champions shot, make up excuses for what people are seeing, and dismiss it as a figment of everyone's imagination.
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John's video did show a slight bend, but it was not as convincing as some of the recent videos posted (partly due to the poor resolution, non-ideal viewpoint, and camera motion [even if it wasn't perceptible during the slow-motion segment]). For those who want to see convincing video demonstrations, several can be found on the bending a bank shot resource page. I also have a clear demonstration of a bend in the instructions video on the $2000 Bank Bend Challenge page.


SUPERSTAR said:
Yet they don't want their claims questioned?
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That's where you are terribly wrong. I wholeheartedly invite people to question any claims I make, and I am happy to defend them and/or revise my thinking when it is lacking or in error. That's how I learn new things, which is why I am here.

Regards,
Dave
 
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JC said:
Dave,

For two grand you could buy yourself a real pool table. Don't be a fool with your money man!!

JC
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I actually like my table. It's great when I have friends over for non-competitive social play. It is also the perfect size for filming instructional videos, IMO. The relatively generous pockets also helps when filming really tough stuff like some of the brutal shots in VEPS, which would have taken a lot longer to film on a tough table.

Having said all of that, I agree with you that my game would probably improve faster if I practiced more on "a real pool table."

Regards,
Dave
 
Nick B said:
Some silicone would help as well.....


Regards

Nick B
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I'm curious,,, why/how would silicone help?

It would seem to me that the best way to bend an object ball would be to impart as much spin on the OB as possible,,

Wouldn't it be helpful to transfer as much from the CB as possible?

I must be incorrect in my thinking, but I would think that slightly scuffing the CB and OB with light sandpaper would do more than silicone.
 
haystj said:
I'm curious,,, why/how would silicone help?

It would seem to me that the best way to bend an object ball would be to impart as much spin on the OB as possible,,

Wouldn't it be helpful to transfer as much from the CB as possible?
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Silicone could be helpful on the rail groove (ignoring the fact that it makes a big mess and is difficult to clean from the cloth), to prevent the curving spin to "take" (and diminish) when the OB gets pushed down into the table by the nose of the cushion. Silicone on the CB or table cloth could also help delay the curve until the CB is past the obstacle (e.g., if the cloth is otherwise too "stick").

haystj said:
I would think that slightly scuffing the CB and OB with light sandpaper would do more than silicone.
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I agree, assuming the cloth on the table (but not on the cushion nose) is slick enough to allow the spin to be retained and delayed sufficiently.

But again, none of this is allowed under the rules of the challenge.

Regards,
Dave
 
dr_dave said:
That's where you are terribly wrong. I wholeheartedly invite people to question any claims I make, and I am happy to defend them and/or revise my thinking when it is lacking or in error.
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Then there is no need for you to call them ridiculous or insulting, is there.:rolleyes:
 
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