$2000 Bank Bend Challenge

I don't think anyone will win this $2000 and not because it can't be done but because the setup is so complex and detailed that there will undoubtably be an issue with any video summited.
 
Hey man, dude's rolling in cash thanks to BU.
I assume you are joking, but I'm not sure. We do well with the BU Summer School Boot Camp ... our event in July is already completely booked, but BU DVD and diploma sales are dismal to say the least. If one were to calculate an hourly rate based on how much work and expense Randy and I put into the BU concept, Exams, DVDs, diploma and logo design, and website, it would be embarrassing low.

Honestly, I was very surprised the BU DVDs did not do as well as my other stuff because I thought it was some of my best work, and I honestly thought it would be more beneficial to more people. Lesson learned ... people seem to like the fancy and "sexy" stuff more than the stuff that could actually be more beneficial to their game.

Regards,
Dave
 
I don't think anyone will win this $2000 and not because it can't be done but because the setup is so complex and detailed that there will undoubtably be an issue with any video summited.
...and in order to do the setup properly you have to sit through that damn video and understand it.

H<----just a stupid pool player.
 
I don't think anyone will win this $2000 and not because it can't be done but because the setup is so complex and detailed that there will undoubtably be an issue with any video summited.

I think most people won't even try, because of the possiblity of being dq'ed on a technicality, and because you just know that somewhere out there is a guy with a brand new Diamond with new cloth and tons of time to spare, who will beat any working stiff that has to squeeze this into a busy schedule and play on some ragged pool hall table with suspect ball sets etc. Not to mention having to setup up and measure etc at such a location. Looking forward to seeing the video that will no doubt be submitted by retired Diamond guy x, whomever that may be.
 
I don't think anyone will win this $2000 and not because it can't be done but because the setup is so complex and detailed that there will undoubtedly be an issue with any video submitted.
I'm not sure anyone will beat the $2000 challenge; although, I still think it is possible based on some of the recent unofficial videos we've seen. Regardless, the $200 will be paid out regardless of the amount of the winning bend.

Concerning the setup (for the shot you select), I agree that it is does take a little care. But once you have it done, it should be easy to satisfy the rules and capture your best shot, with enough attempts. I will post one or more example submittal videos within the next week so people can see how little is actually required. It is very easy to submit a video with no "issues." One just needs to read the rules and watch the instructions video first. Again, the rules are described, illustrated, and demonstrated clearly on the $2000 Bank Bend Challenge page. I don't think we are asking for much, and it doesn't take much time to do the setup properly.

Good luck to those who still plan to submit an official video entry.

Regards,
Dave
 
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Honestly, I was very surprised the BU DVDs did not do as well as my other stuff because I thought it was some of my best work, and I honestly thought it would be more beneficial to more people. Lesson learned ... people seem to like the fancy and "sexy" stuff more than the stuff that could actually be more beneficial to their game.

I think the price is the limiting factor. It is a little too high.
If you lower it slightly it will be more of an impulse buy and you can count more on volume.
At least that is what is limiting me from getting the BU video.
I have the VEEB and I think it is great btw.
 
I assume you are joking, but I'm not sure. We do well with the BU Summer School Boot Camp ... our event in July is already completely booked, but BU DVD and diploma sales are dismal to say the least. If one were to calculate an hourly rate based on how much work and expense Randy and I put into the BU concept, Exams, DVDs, diploma and logo design, and website, it would be embarrassing low.

Honestly, I was very surprised the BU DVDs did not do as well as my other stuff because I thought it was some of my best work, and I honestly thought it would be more beneficial to more people. Lesson learned ... people seem to like the fancy and "sexy" stuff more than the stuff that could actually be more beneficial to their game.

Regards,
Dave

The Billiard University tests are really good, you are right to be proud of that. I'm sure the DVD's are great too. I just can't afford them right now.
 
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How come we haven't seen any official attempt yet at the $2000 Bank Bend Challenge? We ain't asking for much: place two balls and a few donuts, place a toilet paper roll tube, make the shot, take one simple measurement. Also: it doesn't cost anything, there is no risk or losing anything, and you get a chance at free money.

I look forward to seeing what is possible,
Dave
 
I don't think anyone will win this $2000 and not because it can't be done but because the setup is so complex and detailed that there will undoubtably be an issue with any video summited.

That is what I said from the beginning.

It is a typical carny scam.
 
That is what I said from the beginning.

It is a typical carny scam.

Dr Dave isn't tanking any of your money he is in fact doing the complete opposite. Lol. .....so how is this in any way a carny scam????? Below is a definition for the word SCAM for your future reference.

Scam. (Noun): A dishonest way to MAKE money by deceiving people .
 
The way I feel about this challenge (and this post which I love) is it's like going to the adult go karts and walking in with Dale Earnhardt Jr. John B. can bank, but our professor wants ppl to watch the video on how to drive a go kart. You all know the one you have to watch at the beginning about the gas and brake + where the steering wheel is at.

It had to be pressed until he was right, to the point of making a challenge. Why stop at 2k, when I know you feel confident that it can't be done. Make it 100k


...and in order to do the setup properly you have to sit through that damn video and understand it.

H<----just a stupid pool player.
 
I like what Dave is doing here. He is putting his money where his mouth is... Not too many here doing same. He is challenging people to bash his scientific observations. And if someone will beat it he will pay for it.
 
Btw for bending banks at least my worn out 860 bend action seem to be closer to rail than pocket. I tried it couple of times and made couple banks I thought weren't possible but bend was very mild still.
 
That is what I said from the beginning.

It is a typical carny scam.

IMO, Mark(pool101) has already done it base on the original challenge before ALL of the added stipulations, but he used actual balls instead of "pegs", but it was rather obvious that the OB did not fly over them. The ball curved & that was supposed to be the purpose of the challenge, to show that short banked OB could be made to curve.

Then he went back & did some measurements & estimated that he cleared the obstacle ball by various amounts up to 1 1/2 inches to show that it is a viable technique that can be very significant & practical just the way John Brumback & rather many others already knew that it was.

IMO, If anyone is going to get any money, it should be Mark.

Best to Ya,
Rick
 
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I'm not sure anyone will beat the $2000 challenge; although, I still think it is possible based on some of the recent unofficial videos we've seen. Regardless, the $200 will be paid out regardless of the amount of the winning bend

when I know you feel confident that it can't be done.

Not sure why DrDave thinks people will be able to set up 6 balls, when they can't even read.
 
Not sure why DrDave thinks people will be able to set up 6 balls, when they can't even read.
You're probably right, but if people want to actually give the challenge a try, all they really need to do is watch the short video explanation. Although, it would also help to actually read the few simple and clearly-stated rules on the $2000 Bank Bend Challenge page.

Also, some people seem to be forgetting that it cost nothing to participate. In other words, you have absolutely nothing to lose (as in a bet or a scam). And even if nobody bends the ball enough to with the $2000, we are still paying $200 to the best attempt!

I will post some example video submittals soon so people can see how easy it is and to give people a mark to beat for the $200. Any if somebody can beat the $2000 challenge, Bob and I will be more than happy to pay out the top prize.

Again, this is not a "bet" or a "scam." It is a free and open challenge with a money reward.

Good luck,
Dave
 
IMO, Mark(pool101) has already done it base on the original challenge before ALL of the added stipulations, but he used actual balls instead of "pegs", but it was rather obvious that the OB did not fly over them. The ball curved & that was supposed to be the purpose of the challenge, to show that short banked OB could be made to curve.
The purpose of the challenge isn't to prove if a bank can be bent or not. We've already seen numerous videos clearly showing a bank bending. For those interested, several are included on the bending a bank shot resource page. My $2000 Bank Bend Challenge instructions video also shows an example of a bend. The main purpose of the challenge is to see how much bend is possible with an accurate and controlled shot, and to reward the individual who bends the ball more than anybody else.

Then he went back & did some measurements & estimated that he cleared the obstacle ball by various amounts up to 1 1/2 inches to show that it is a viable technique that can be very significant & practical just the way John Brumback & rather many others already knew that it was.

IMO, If anyone is going to get any money, it should be Mark.
Based on all of the unofficial videos we've seen so far here, on Facebook, and via e-mail, I agree that Mark seems to have the best chance to win the $200 and maybe even the $2000. All he needs to do is submit an official entry video. Again, we ain't asking for much: spot two balls, place some donuts, place a toilet-paper-roll tube, hit the shot, take a single measurement. The smallest measurement (i.e., most bend) wins.

Good luck Mark,
Dave
 
Hi Dave. What is the window for this if someone does not come through with a $2000 winner? I was busy this past weekend and didn't have any of the stickers. I was able to bend a couple of banks...enough to try and film but probably not $2000 winners.
 
Hi Dave. What is the window for this if someone does not come through with a $2000 winner? I was busy this past weekend and didn't have any of the stickers. I was able to bend a couple of banks...enough to try and film but probably not $2000 winners.
As indicated on the $2000 Bank Bend Challenge page, the competition is open through the end of July, 2016. The cash will be paid out to the person with the best bend of all videos posted online by July 31, 2016.

Good luck,
Dave
 
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