Even if it is illegal break, it is not BIH . It is just loss of turn so what am I missing ?
Corey Deuel Controversial 10-Ball break at SBE
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Even if it is illegal break, it is not BIH . It is just loss of turn so what am I missing ?
Even if it is illegal break, it is not BIH . It is just loss of turn so what am I missing ?
You may be thinking of the "three-point rule," under which at least 3 balls must either be pocketed or reach the head string (or center string in some events). An illegal or "non-satisfactory" break of that type results in the incoming player having the option to accept the table or return it to the breaker.
But under normal (WPA) 9-Ball and 10-Ball rules, if a ball is not pocketed on the break and fewer than 4 balls are driven to a rail, it is a foul, i.e., ball in hand to the opponent.
Shane looks like the cartoon that's about to have steam coming out of his ears. lmfo. That is some funny stuff.
haha :thumbup:You miss the point.
Smaller field = Few Chinese competitors, Pilipino competitors, European competitors
Big = World players
To answer your question, no the China/Taiwan Pool force wasn't what it is now 15 years ago and that's my point..., Corey was winning when the field wasn't as strong and now he isn't because the field is strong.
You can live in the past, but it wont change the reality of the present.
Smaller field = Few Chinese competitors, Pilipino competitors, European competitors
Big = World players
To answer your question, no the China/Taiwan Pool force wasn't what it is now 15 years ago and that's my point..., Corey was winning when the field wasn't as strong and now he isn't because the field is strong.
You can live in the past, but it wont change the reality of the present.
Funny how when somebody complained about Shane playing with the 1ball and he stopped he also quit making balls on the break....weird huh
Also strange how Kiamco made the 9ball in the side everytime - pattern rack much? But since these guys win all the time nobody calls them on their bullshit - yeah I know, they should practice their break more yada yada bs, looks like they should practice their "rack" more. Some guys just wont cheat even if it means they cant win against the "rackers"
Fire away
Yeah, Reyes, Parica, Bustamante all second tier
Speaking of that, he busted them all up in the same tournament.
His run at the 2001 BCA Open.
Lost to Paul Pottier 9-11
Def Walter Grass 11-9
Def Tang Boon 11-8
Def Alain Martel 11-5
Def Tony Watson 11-10
Def Francisco Bustamante 11-5
Def Efren Reyes 11-3
Def Jim Rempe 11-1
Def Rodolfo Luat 11-6
Def John Kucharo 11-3
Def Kim Davenport 7-3
Def Jose Parica 7-5
Maybe someone can find the player list of the 2001 All Japan Championship.
Or the 2001 U.S. Open.
I don't live in the past.
But to try and diminish his accomplishments during that time because you think the competition was soft.
Seriously dude.
You couldn't buy a clue.
LOL.
Speaking of that, he busted them all up in the same tournament.
His run at the 2001 BCA Open.
Lost to Paul Pottier 9-11
Def Walter Grass 11-9
Def Tang Boon 11-8
Def Alain Martel 11-5
Def Tony Watson 11-10
Def Francisco Bustamante 11-5
Def Efren Reyes 11-3
Def Jim Rempe 11-1
Def Rodolfo Luat 11-6
Def John Kucharo 11-3
Def Kim Davenport 7-3
Def Jose Parica 7-5
Maybe someone can find the player list of the 2001 All Japan Championship.
Or the 2001 U.S. Open.
I don't live in the past.
But to try and diminish his accomplishments during that time because you think the competition was soft.
Seriously dude.
You couldn't buy a clue.
LOL.
2001 might have been Corey's best year. That year, at the US Open, Corey beat Mika 11-0 in the finals. They were using the Sardo rack, tapped in balls and Corey was soft breaking to perfection.
In a past conversatoon with Mika, I got the impression that this was his bitter-est loss.
Eric
Maybe I'm just not connecting with something here?
How could a reasonable person, ever fault someone, who is playing within the rules?
Could be, that the rules need to be changed? That wouldn't be Corey's responsibility though.
If Corey doesn't drive enough balls to the rail, it would be the responsibility of his opponent, to call for an official. That is, if the opponent wants to take full advantage of the rules.
If a player gets upset when someone is playing within the rules, that player who got upset, would simply need to become stronger, mentally.
I'm not saying whether Shane was mistaken here or not, because I wasn't there to understand the context of what happened.
If Corey was indeed, playing within the rules, the only contention, that someone could have...at least in my mind, is that Corey was being more creative and possibly, playing smarter than the others who didn't use their creativity to win.
How could a reasonable person, ever fault someone, who is playing within the rules?
Could be, that the rules need to be changed? That wouldn't be Corey's responsibility though.
If Corey doesn't drive enough balls to the rail, it would be the responsibility of his opponent, to call for an official. That is, if the opponent wants to take full advantage of the rules.
If a player gets upset when someone is playing within the rules, that player who got upset, would simply need to become stronger, mentally.
I'm not saying whether Shane was mistaken here or not, because I wasn't there to understand the context of what happened.
If Corey was indeed, playing within the rules, the only contention, that someone could have...at least in my mind, is that Corey was being more creative and possibly, playing smarter than the others who didn't use their creativity to win.
Like it or not, Deuel is definitely a pool genius. Not only the style of what he comes up, but the psychological ramifications against his bewildered opponents!
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IMO, it's like Belichick employing the ineligible receiver snafu last year vs Ravens. Kind of a dick move but still kind of genius.
I don't understand why treating the break like a controlled shot is a cardinal sin when it is done at a speed you don't find acceptable, but it is fine when it is done at a speed you find acceptable. Corey's soft break was functional, effective and legal in nine ball, I don't see a problem with it at all. When someone breaks nine ball with a medium speed and draws of the short rail for position on the one in the corner they are doing the same thing only at a slightly higher speed. Same thing here. Corey's efforts were made with the intentions of following the rules, twice it bit him in the butt, but that was the chance he took. Looks like we gotta change the rules again!
Exactly! He's doing nothing wrong. The should have let him crush all the 9 ball events. So now Shane has the best 10 ball break(when he plays with the 1ball) and he's a genius - yet they're not changing the rules cause its not fair:crying: lol. Cause he hits them harder. Absurd
Reminds me of the 2001 US Open 9 ball.
Shane's reaction is priceless. And Corey, won't even look at him. Hilarious. But, I have to give the credit to Corey. This game is ever-evolving. Corey is creative and smart and that wins alot of matches. Look for a rule change coming soon I bet.
Shane's reaction is priceless. And Corey, won't even look at him. Hilarious. But, I have to give the credit to Corey. This game is ever-evolving. Corey is creative and smart and that wins alot of matches. Look for a rule change coming soon I bet.
The only game in which Corey has even a reasonable chance of beating Shane is 1-pocket. So he attempted to make 10-ball into one pocket. One pocket, the game that people that can't shoot anymore play. Just like Corey. He's never going to win a shoot out with SVB so maybe I can out move him. Clearly, that was his thinking here.
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Is outmoving your opponent part of the game? Thought so. 1p the game that people play that cant shoot anymore???
I'm not gonna respond anymore and just nominate this for STUPIDEST POST OF THE YEAR!
Doubt you'll win, but you have a chance - maybe you can "outmove" everybody else. Good luck
Wasn't Corey the one who knocked SVB out of the U.S. Open 9ball to deny him his 'peat?
On that note, wasn't he the last American standing in that tournament? GASP!!! HE WAS.
Not to mention he just knocked SVB out of the U.S. Open One Pocket YESTERDAY!
That's the game that people who can't shoot anymore play.
WAIT A SEC!
Does that mean that SVB can't play either since he is playing the game that people who can't shoot play?
Now if Corey can't shoot, and SVB can't shoot, and Corey beats him, what does that mean?
Is SVB slumming or something if he apparently can play, and is stooping to a game that only cripple old people who can't shoot anymore play?
Are you special needs?
So by your asinine reasoning, should we assume that Efren, Scott frost or Alex can't shoot anymore either considering their all time status in the game of pool?
Thank you for this "expert" analysis.
I think you mistook the intent of hos post. I dont think it was intended to be disparaging...he was saying that corey changed the break strategy to make it less of a shooter's game.