Fresh and Authentic Moori Medium and Jewel Ruby/ Jewel Malachite tips

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It is a shame that so much controversy surrounds Moori tips.
All the fakes floating around has killed a good tip.

 

[Dave38]

My take is, if the price wasn't so damn high, the knock off smucks wouldn't have the incentive. But there are always the damn dumbnutzz, wannabee greats that hear how great some tip is, and will sell their grandmother to get it hoping it will improve their game...rather than practicing.....those are the real culprits, IMO.... it's a shame, really. I get quite a few customers that want a $40 tip installed on a cue that cost $50-60, but the ferrule is loose and the wrap is coming off....WTF....BUT because someone told them this tip is da nutz they want to spend it...don't make sense to me.
Dave

 

[Abernathy]

i really do have to say something when people spread information that is just not correct. you want us to believe that the all honorable Mr. Moori of japanese decent, was ill and had his tips manufactured in china but the boxes still had 'made in japan' on them. so, he perpetuated a giant fraud on the entire billiard community based on his good name and his good business reputation. highly unlikely!!

this thread is just too bogus and incredible to be believed and serves only one purpose which is to tout the op's position and why he charges $10 when every reseller such as cue and case, hightower, cuecomponents and many others are selling them for the same price or less. the op even states, 'the way he heard it' and i 'heard' he is self absorbed so does that make it true! this guy is out for himself. I know he's a great guy and very reputable, bla, bla, bla. everything the guy sells is great and you turkeys buy into the bs. he's the same guy that sells $6 shafts for $10+ that you and I can buy direct for $6.

either mr moori is not honorable and a very deceitful individual which we all know he is not or the whole story is freaking bull turd.

my money is on the bull turd.

 

[john coloccia]

Newbies and players, like me, aren't in the "in" crowd. We don't know all the secret suppliers, all the history, or anything about holograms and fancy viewers or any of this stuff. All we have to work with is a lot of innuendo and second hand stories.

Moori, the company, could help us by clearing all of this up and telling us who we can buy from with confidence. Maybe they're just too big to care at this point, and I can understand that, but it would still be helpful.

 

[jazznpool]

How amusing. You sound exactly like the ghastly "kind regards" dude. Shifty shenanigans are expected. Your screen name is a good example of that. Lol. Have fun in the mud.

i really do have to say something when people spread information that is just not correct. you want us to believe that the all honorable Mr. Moori of japanese decent, was ill and had his tips manufactured in china but the boxes still had 'made in japan' on them. so, he perpetuated a giant fraud on the entire billiard community based on his good name and his good business reputation. highly unlikely!!

this thread is just too bogus and incredible to be believed and serves only one purpose which is to tout the op's position and why he charges $10 when every reseller such as cue and case, hightower, cuecomponents and many others are selling them for the same price or less. the op even states, 'the way he heard it' and i 'heard' he is self absorbed so does that make it true! this guy is out for himself. I know he's a great guy and very reputable, bla, bla, bla. everything the guy sells is great and you turkeys buy into the bs. he's the same guy that sells $6 shafts for $10+ that you and I can buy direct for $6.

either mr moori is not honorable and a very deceitful individual which we all know he is not or the whole story is freaking bull turd.

my money is on the bull turd.

 

[Abernathy]

How amusing. You sound exactly like the ghastly "kind regards" dude. Shifty shenanigans are expected. Your screen name is a good example of that. Lol. Have fun in the mud.

if anyone is a shifty shyster it is anyone who spreads lies and scare tactics to sell their wares to the less educated and ill informed az community. barringer is right about many on here. your $10 moori are the same that cue and case are selling which is the same that hightower is selling which is the same as cuecomponents is selling which are the same as you are selling. you pay more because of your low purchasing power and because of that you have to sell for higher prices. but the stories, lies, innuendos are totally unnecessary.

anyone trying to sell $6 shafts for $10+ is a shifty shyster especially when anyone can buy them for $6!

kind regards,
Mike

 

[carguy]

It's about integrity

Newbies and players, like me, aren't in the "in" crowd. We don't know all the secret suppliers, all the history, or anything about holograms and fancy viewers or any of this stuff. All we have to work with is a lot of innuendo and second hand stories.

Moori, the company, could help us by clearing all of this up and telling us who we can buy from with confidence. Maybe they're just too big to care at this point, and I can understand that, but it would still be helpful.

The trouble is that it seems as though the Moori tip company was the main perpetrator in this mess. It seems, and again, I have no elevated viewpoint, that Moori had tips manufactured for them in China, tips completely different from and inferior to what we all had become accustomed to buying. We trusted the brand and we trusted the man and our trust seems to have been misplaced.

It looks to me like the original seller of bootleg Moori tips...was Mr. Moori! Following that, it was easy for anyone so inclined to purchase the same Chinese-made tips in China or elsewhere at a tiny fraction of the OEM price and truthfully claim that they were the same tips Mr. Moori was selling, thus inflating their profit margin enormously.

Again, this is all speculation on my part but it seems to fill in all the blanks.

I would be delighted to discover this is not true; I enjoyed the idea that there was a Japanese pool enthusiast who was making these great tips for us by hand. The high price never particularly bothered me because to me they were really that good.

If this really is what happened, I'm very disappointed in the company and the man.

I won't be using Moori tips again any time soon.

Robin Snyder

 

[john coloccia]

Hey, Robin. Honestly, I have no dog in this fight. I don't personally use Moori tips, and it's simply because there are other tips I happen to prefer. That said, I wouldn't be against trying them again as the one I used was apparently some old 5 layer tip, and maybe the new ones are different, but I'd have to know what I'm getting first.

But I don't have any reason to believe Mr. Moori did anything like this, though I also have no reason to believe he didn't. And there seems to be a lot of good information out on Barringer's site about it, but half the people I talk to tell me he's great to deal with and is a stand up guy, and the other half are not so flattering. These are all people I trust, so it doesn't really help clear anything up!

Honestly, this is just entirely too much drama for a cue tip.

 

[carguy]

Hey, Robin. Honestly, I have no dog in this fight. I don't personally use Moori tips, and it's simply because there are other tips I happen to prefer. That said, I wouldn't be against trying them again as the one I used was apparently some old 5 layer tip, and maybe the new ones are different, but I'd have to know what I'm getting first.

But I don't have any reason to believe Mr. Moori did anything like this, though I also have no reason to believe he didn't. And there seems to be a lot of good information out on Barringer's site about it, but half the people I talk to tell me he's great to deal with and is a stand up guy, and the other half are not so flattering. These are all people I trust, so it doesn't really help clear anything up!

Honestly, this is just entirely too much drama for a cue tip.

John- So I've just re-read my post, this time under the influence of coffee. Yipes! Pretty harsh and pretty personal, much more so than I intended.

Look, I'm small potatoes in this. When Mooris first came out I tried them and liked them a lot. I put them on my own cues and when I started building cues I installed them because I liked how they played. I became a fan.

Then the tips become scarce for a while and I read that Mr. Moori was ill. I was concerned about the guy!

When they "reappeared", I noticed that the tips had changed for the worse. Not my imagination. They cut differently, delaminated frequently, mushroomed and did not play the same, not nearly as well. I heard others verify my own observations.
That's 100% of what I know.

So that's it. Besides that, I have no information except what I read here, and everyone knows how THAT goes.

What I said previously is pure speculation, but I feel hurt that it could unfold that way.

You are right though. WAY too much drama for a cue tip.
It all does kind of add up though.

Just to add...I'm off Mooris because I don't like the last batch I bought, which was kind of costly and there are pretty many extremely good tips around now that I like at least as well.

Robin Snyder

 

[Dave38]

i really do have to say something when people spread information that is just not correct. you want us to believe that the all honorable Mr. Moori of japanese decent, was ill and had his tips manufactured in china but the boxes still had 'made in japan' on them. so, he perpetuated a giant fraud on the entire billiard community based on his good name and his good business reputation. highly unlikely!!

this thread is just too bogus and incredible to be believed and serves only one purpose which is to tout the op's position and why he charges $10 when every reseller such as cue and case, hightower, cuecomponents and many others are selling them for the same price or less. the op even states, 'the way he heard it' and i 'heard' he is self absorbed so does that make it true! this guy is out for himself. I know he's a great guy and very reputable, bla, bla, bla. everything the guy sells is great and you turkeys buy into the bs. he's the same guy that sells $6 shafts for $10+ that you and I can buy direct for $6.

either mr moori is not honorable and a very deceitful individual which we all know he is not or the whole story is freaking bull turd.

my money is on the bull turd.

And can the real Joe please stand up....:grin:

 

[bdcues]

if anyone is a shifty shyster it is anyone who spreads lies and scare tactics to sell their wares to the less educated and ill informed az community. barringer is right about many on here. your $10 moori are the same that cue and case are selling which is the same that hightower is selling which is the same as cuecomponents is selling which are the same as you are selling. you pay more because of your low purchasing power and because of that you have to sell for higher prices. but the stories, lies, innuendos are totally unnecessary.

anyone trying to sell $6 shafts for $10+ is a shifty shyster especially when anyone can buy them for $6!

kind regards,
Mike

lmaorof........

 

[EddieBme]

Are Moori tips still worth the money, ($8-$10) in comparison to the cost of other tips in that price range, (or even cheaper but better quality etc.)?

 

[pescadoman]

if anyone is a shifty shyster it is anyone who spreads lies and scare tactics to sell their wares to the less educated and ill informed az community. barringer is right about many on here. your $10 moori are the same that cue and case are selling which is the same that hightower is selling which is the same as cuecomponents is selling which are the same as you are selling. you pay more because of your low purchasing power and because of that you have to sell for higher prices. but the stories, lies, innuendos are totally unnecessary.

anyone trying to sell $6 shafts for $10+ is a shifty shyster especially when anyone can buy them for $6!

kind regards,
Mike

Joe Barringer is an idiot and has proven such time and time again. He gets so lost in his own lies that he doesn't know which way is up. When I called him out and rebutted all of his crap with proof, he went nuts and posted a picture of my house, asking for my address(which, if he is as organized as he claims, already had). He basically implied a threat. Oh, and yes I have all of those threads saved.

I only hope that his lawyer shared my instructions and he does the smart thing.... leave me the **** alone.

Did you get a button for being part of his insanity club? Are meds included?

 

[Dave38]

Randy, it is the same idiot, using a different handle...he thinks by bullying and being vulgar he will get his way, but he's not that smart....especially once you read his criminal record...not the brightest bulb.
Abernathy is Joe, Joe is Abernathy....he hasn't denied it either when it's been posted.
Dave

 

[Abernathy]

Randy, it is the same idiot, using a different handle...he thinks by bullying and being vulgar he will get his way, but he's not that smart....especially once you read his criminal record...not the brightest bulb.
Abernathy is Joe, Joe is Abernathy....he hasn't denied it either when it's been posted.
Dave

you guys are real special. anyone who agrees with Joe is Joe and you are the only ones who are correct. yes i agree with barringer because he's correct most of the time whereas you guys have too much time on your hand and as Barringer puts it, "losers". it's so true.

the thread was discussing moori tips and you guys derailed it. The OP is a tool and needs to be called out for his lies and innuendos. he's wrong and moori are a fine tip and mr moori never authorized chinese manufacturing. anyoe who believes the OP is a fool.

now take the 'kind regards' and you know where to put it. have a nice day.

 

[JoeyInCali]

Randy, it is the same idiot, using a different handle...he thinks by bullying and being vulgar he will get his way, but he's not that smart....especially once you read his criminal record...not the brightest bulb.
Abernathy is Joe, Joe is Abernathy....he hasn't denied it either when it's been posted.
Dave

He forgot his password for his other alias, Billy Bob .
You gotta love criminals passing judgment.
The same nice guy calls some people deadbeat . Meanwhile he has two chapter 7's on his name .
Thinks he has a charmed life . How many DUI's and driving on suspended license does he have ? Never mind using women's face as speed bag domestic calls.

And look, he suddenly changed his writing style.

 

[rhncue]

I have been informed on how to contact mr. Moori's sole north american distributor and now am sure that jazznpool is selling genuine Moori tips. My inquiries were not to get them at a cheaper price but to assure that they were genuine. I've been installing the genuine Moori's for a while now and they certainly aren't what's being sold by most of the other dealers. The ones that I have now look different, (like the old true Moori's) play like the old Mooris and the layers do not separate.

Dick

 

[Hits 'em Hard]

I have been informed on how to contact mr. Moori's sole north american distributor and now am sure that jazznpool is selling genuine Moori tips. My inquiries were not to get them at a cheaper price but to assure that they were genuine. I've been installing the genuine Moori's for a while now and they certainly aren't what's being sold by most of the other dealers. The ones that I have now look different, (like the old true Moori's) play like the old Mooris and the layers do not separate.

Dick

Here's a new Malachite after one day of play. Btw it had nearly twice the deflection the Jewel that I needed to replace did. Unplayable. Don't care how genuine a tip is if it does that.

 

[Kim Bye]

Here's a new Malachite after one day of play. Btw it had nearly twice the deflection the Jewel that I needed to replace did. Unplayable. Don't care how genuine a tip is if it does that.

Maybe you could tell us where you bought that tip?
I have installed about 10 Jewels, 10 Rubys and 5 or 6 Malachite tips, and they have all been very good quality. I actually play with the Jewel malachite tip now and I really like it.
The new offerings from Moori is of much higher quality, than the regular tip he makes.
Such a shame that copycats ruin a good product.

 

[rhncue]

Here's a new Malachite after one day of play. Btw it had nearly twice the deflection the Jewel that I needed to replace did. Unplayable. Don't care how genuine a tip is if it does that.

I've never installed a malachite tip but I have installed some jewels which the customer really liked. He tried one and came back and had two other shafts re-tipped with them. I've put on a number of the other Moori's with no complaints.

Dick