(FAQ) How do you use the tangent line?

If you saw a guy in the corner of the room playing with yellow earmuffs on his head, a contraption on his arm that looks like he trains dogs, and a 65" cue, you'd probably say some pretty colourful things about his playing ability and his need to work on his "feel" as well. Unfortunately, that guy is Earl Strickland, and he could spot you the 5 out. Making generalized comments about what people "need to use" to play pool is rather closed minded. In fact, you keep quoting "Master Instructor Fran Crimi". There are also Master Instructor Jerry Breiseth and Master Instructor Robert Byrne that advocated the tangent line. And visualizing it in order to determine the path of the cueball, and how to make the cueball deviate from that path by using draw or follow. It's how I learned the game. I still look at the tangent line when I'm in question about breaking up a cluster, or checking out a possible carom or scratch. So, tangent lines are useful to me. As such, your opinion is just your opinion. Stop making generalizations about how players should learn. There are different coaches, instructors, theories, etc. CTE does work for some people. Systems work for some people. Just because you see no value in it, doesn't mean it is without value. You're just too closed minded to acknowledge the fact that it works for some people, and you feel the need to tell "the truth'....you just seem to forget that it's "your truth".

Feel free to add me to the pile of people you have on ignore. I'd welcome membership into that exclusive treehouse.

I only scanned this but I guess you missed the posts where I said that I CONSCIOUSLY use the tangent line on certain occasions...

And I guess you also did not notice that I have NOT said anything critical of Mr. Sand's OP nor his intent of the post.

All Best Wishes for ALL.
 
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So you actually think most of the forum is suffering from narcissistic behavior problem? Have you even really looked at the definitions of the disorder?

I'll reply to this, not because of you, but because of others that read these posts. I am positive there are definitely 2 narcissists who post here fairly regularly. People might be surprised as to who I think they are, which unfortunately, I must keep to myself.

Other than that, yes, there are others who exhibit narcissistic tendencies on occasion but I wouldn't call them narcissists.
 
If I truly had such a "disorder", I would certainly not stay around here knowing what I am going to get from the same few truly narcissistic individuals & those that worship THEM the way that THEY want to be worshiped.

I know from whom pride & arrogance originated & that prevents me from ever being narcissistic.

I also know from Whom Blessing comes & that too prevents me from ever being narcissistic.

All Best Wishes for ALL.

PS Does it not amaze anyone else that after 6 or 7 attempts to get this thread back on topic, that some are discussing 'people' in the form of me.

You just bring out the best in people and stop it. You love the attention.
 
I'll reply to this, not because of you, but because of others that read these posts. I am positive there are definitely 2 narcissists who post here fairly regularly. People might be surprised as to who I think they are, which unfortunately, I must keep to myself.

Other than that, yes, there are others who exhibit narcissistic tendencies on occasion but I wouldn't call them narcissists.

So, you couldn't just answer, you just had to throw in a backhanded insult. Real nice Fran.
 
I only scanned this but I guess you missed the posts where I said that I CONSCIOUSLY use the tangent line on certain occasions...

And I guess you also did not notice that I have NOT said anything critical of Mr. Sand's OP nor his intent of the post.

All Best Wishes for ALL.

Actually, you did. You did when you agreed with Fran that using a tangent line was laughable. Despite the fact that one can easily see top pros occasionally checking for the tangent line closely.
 
Like another member said in a thread a while back...

instead of trying control others... control yourself.

...says the guy with over 18000 posts in 4 years....and who can't let a comment go without responding. Hypocrisy, thy name is ENGLISH!......

Dude, step away from the keyboard. We were having a great conversation until you got involved. In fact, most conversations on AZB are good until you get involved. There is a reason you can't post in the Aiming subforum anymore. You like to argue. For no apparent reason.
 
Neil,

I was not going to say anything to YOU, but I can not contain myself due to your total crap.

Do you know what, "Thou shalt not bare false witness against thy neighbor" means.

Every time that you misstate what others have actually said or done you violate that commandment.

You do it too continuously for it to be mistakes.

You either do it intentionally or have an issue reading & understanding text.

Fran did NOT say that "most" display narcissistic behavior.

Fran's comment & my agreement with her about the tangent line is NOT as you characterize them.

You do this kind of crap 'ALL' of the time in nearly every post that you make.

It then require posts like the one Fran made & the very many many many that I have had to make in order to correct the falsehoods that you have stated.

THEN... YOU yank even harder on the toilet chain.

There is little to no doubt that you will do the same here.

Like Fran said, I only make this post for the others that read these threads as I have come to learn that it is completely futile to even try to have any rational exchange with you.

All Best Wishes for ALL.
 
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Neil,

I was not going to say anything to YOU, but I can not contain myself due to your total crap.

Do you know what, "Thou shalt not bare false witness against thy neighbor" means.

Every time that you misstate what others have actually said or done you violate that commandment.

You do it too continuously for it to be mistakes.

You either do it intentionally or have an issue reading & understanding text.

Fran did NOT say that "most" display narcissistic behavior.

Fran's comment & my agreement with her about the tangent line is NOT as you characterize them.

You do this kind of crap 'ALL' of the time in nearly every post that you make.

It then require posts like the one Fran made & the very many many many that I have had to make in order to correct the falsehoods that you have stated.

THEN... YOU yank even harder in the toilet chain.

There is little to no doubt that you will do the same here.

Like Fran said, I only make this post for the others that read these threads as I have come to learn that it is completely futile to even try to have any rational exchange with you.

All Best Wishes for ALL.

Do you know what "judge not, lest ye be judged" means?

How about "But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also"?

How about "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?"....?

Don't choose biblical verses that only suit your purposes. You aren't the only person on here that had read the book.

How about you take a chill pill, leave the conversation, take a nap, and let the adults speak? Yes?
 
Neil,

I was not going to say anything to YOU, but I can not contain myself due to your total crap.

Do you know what, "Thou shalt not bare false witness against thy neighbor" means.

Every time that you misstate what others have actually said or done you violate that commandment.

You do it too continuously for it to be mistakes.

You either do it intentionally or have an issue reading & understanding text.

Fran did NOT say that "most" display narcissistic behavior.

Fran's comment & my agreement with her about the tangent line is NOT as you characterize them.

You do this kind of crap 'ALL' of the time in nearly every post that you make.

It then require posts like the one Fran made & the very many many many that I have had to make in order to correct the falsehoods that you have stated.

THEN... YOU yank even harder in the toilet chain.

There is little to no doubt that you will do the same here.

Like Fran said, I only make this post for the others that read these threads as I have come to learn that it is completely futile to even try to have any rational exchange with you.

All Best Wishes for ALL.

Keep digging Rick, keep digging.:rolleyes:
 
12 salesmen with briefcases 100 miles from home are 'experts'.

I'm not here to have teeth pulled or play word games of a dozen questions & answers... like 3 or 4 others always like to play.

If I tell you to play wearing 3 socks on your right foot because it sets you on a better plane for shooting pool...

you & everyone else is at free will to do that or not.

But we can still discuss whether that has any real life merit, effect, or significance without those that are doing it or not doing to have a lynch him mentality.

All Best Wishes for YOU & Yours... & ALL.

I said OBJECTIVELY. You refuse to answer the question?
 
Do you know what "judge not, lest ye be judged" means?

How about "But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also"?

How about "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?"....?

Don't choose biblical verses that only suit your purposes. You aren't the only person on here that had read the book.

How about you take a chill pill, leave the conversation, take a nap, and let the adults speak? Yes?


He's bible thumper that has a monopoly on knowledge. All we are doing is feeding the troll. He is difficult to ignore because he is so prolific.
 
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