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DrCue'sProtege

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Instructors,
What is the best way to play this shot to get position on the 4-Ball? The CB and 3-Ball are only about a half inch from each other. Assume the best way is to play it into the side and sort of "pinch draw" it back across and up to around where the yellow CB is.

Thoughts? I've had this shot the last two nights during practice and hosed it up both times.

r/DCP

https://pad.chalkysticks.com/a7f3e
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
Instructors,
What is the best way to play this shot to get position on the 4-Ball? The CB and 3-Ball are only about a half inch from each other. Assume the best way is to play it into the side and sort of "pinch draw" it back across and up to around where the yellow CB is.

Thoughts? I've had this shot the last two nights during practice and hosed it up both times.

r/DCP

https://pad.chalkysticks.com/a7f3e
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Use up to 45 degrees of cut if that will still make the ball and play below center a little. Inside english will help avoid the foul.
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
Instructors,
What is the best way to play this shot to get position on the 4-Ball? The CB and 3-Ball are only about a half inch from each other. Assume the best way is to play it into the side and sort of "pinch draw" it back across and up to around where the yellow CB is.

Thoughts? I've had this shot the last two nights during practice and hosed it up both times.

r/DCP

https://pad.chalkysticks.com/a7f3e
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When you messed up the shot, what happened?
 
FranCrimi said:
When you messed up the shot, what happened?
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The first time I must have hit it too hard as the CB drifted down towards the spot and I had to play a cross-corner bank on the 4-Ball.

The second time, with a very similar shot, I was worried about the double hit and ended up just barely grazing the CB.

I guess what I am asking is as a general rule how one handles shots where the CB and OB are very, VERY close.

r/Mike
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
The first time I must have hit it too hard as the CB drifted down towards the spot and I had to play a cross-corner bank on the 4-Ball.

The second time, with a very similar shot, I was worried about the double hit and ended up just barely grazing the CB.

I guess what I am asking is as a general rule how one handles shots where the CB and OB are very, VERY close.

r/Mike
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I think it's better to address your personal issues with the shot. The first time you hit it, you didn't put enough backspin on the cb because it drifted forward. That means that you didn't elevate your cue enough. Also, your bridge hand may not have been secure enough to handle the needed elevation.

Secure your bridge hand resting on your fingertips and elevate your cue more.

As Bob explained, inside spin will help avoid the double hit because the cue stick is following through down and away from the direction the cue ball is going.
 
Man up, and Jack up. I see a lot of players pushy foot around these shots and just end up dabbing the white. Hit it like you mean it and don't have a care in the world about double hitting the white when you practise these. A few hundred of these types of shots will teach you how much elevation you need and how hard you can hit them.

People usually have a hard time aiming them. So doubts about your aim, doubts about the double hit and then doubts about position will only lead to one thing, screwing it up.

Inside is great advise. Especially when they're like they are in your diagram. It means you have to Jack up less. I find a mixture of a slight elevation and a smidge of inside helps a lot.

In your diagram I would think about coming the other side of the side pocket with a little draw. More margin for error and draw is the natural shot for many on close shots.
 
Pidge;5570063[SIZE="4" said:
]Man up, and Jack up.[/SIZE] I see a lot of players pushy foot around these shots and just end up dabbing the white. Hit it like you mean it and don't have a care in the world about double hitting the white when you practise these. A few hundred of these types of shots will teach you how much elevation you need and how hard you can hit them.

People usually have a hard time aiming them. So doubts about your aim, doubts about the double hit and then doubts about position will only lead to one thing, screwing it up.

Inside is great advise. Especially when they're like they are in your diagram. It means you have to Jack up less. I find a mixture of a slight elevation and a smidge of inside helps a lot.

In your diagram I would think about coming the other side of the side pocket with a little draw. More margin for error and draw is the natural shot for many on close shots.
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Or he could hit it like a girl and be just as successful.
 
a tip i got from my house pro is to stand alittle higher so you see the contact point better
would like to know what the instructors think of this advice
 
Pidge said:
Man up, and Jack up.
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FranCrimi said:
Or he could hit it like a girl and be just as successful.
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Perhaps the gender neutral expression would be "Suck it up and Jack up". :wink:
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Just FYI, it is entirely possible to hit this with a level cue, and no double hit. it is a finesse stroke shot. I've seen randyg draw the CB 9' when the two balls were an inch apart...with NO foul, not elevating the cue at all. It requires a good pendulum stroke, with a very close bridge, and gripping the cue way up at the front of the wrap area. Again, this is something that Steve Boyer can teach you. :grin:

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
 
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