If you can break and control the rack.....:bow-down:
They need to kick your ass outta the APA.
are apa.rule haters pansies ?
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If you can break and control the rack.....:bow-down:
They need to kick your ass outta the APA.
Im not gonna read any of this and just say...yep
I seen some players that play so bad....
..their banking position is the table closest to the ATM.
People who play in the APA shouldn't complain about rules because they knew the rules when they agreed to play. If you don't like them then you can find another league to play in that has rules that you like. I will agree that not having a push out rule favors the weaker player, and that is what the APA is all about, a level playing field.
As far as this pushing out is for pansies nonsense, that's ridiculous. I would certainly get along just fine without the push. I play a lot of kick safeties after breaks in a lot spots other players would push out in. Having said that, there is nothing wrong with a push out rule. A lot of times well hit breaks go awry, and you are left without a shot. Sometimes a lesser opponent will break like crap and leave you stranded. I can see the idea about being stranded by your own shortcomings, but if your opponent lucks into a ball in hand because he made a crappy break, that is much more egregious than being allowed to push. Even Shane breaks and then has to push out. So you are saying that SVB is a pansy who needs to learn how to break better? That is what it seems like to me. The push and the following shot require quite a bit of skill and knowledge to be successful at.
As far as this pushing out is for pansies nonsense, that's ridiculous. I would certainly get along just fine without the push. I play a lot of kick safeties after breaks in a lot spots other players would push out in. Having said that, there is nothing wrong with a push out rule. A lot of times well hit breaks go awry, and you are left without a shot. Sometimes a lesser opponent will break like crap and leave you stranded. I can see the idea about being stranded by your own shortcomings, but if your opponent lucks into a ball in hand because he made a crappy break, that is much more egregious than being allowed to push. Even Shane breaks and then has to push out. So you are saying that SVB is a pansy who needs to learn how to break better? That is what it seems like to me. The push and the following shot require quite a bit of skill and knowledge to be successful at.
If I know my opponent likes to take flyers, I'll always push to a shot he shouldn't be taking. After he fires and misses I can then clean up his mess and do it all over again. I sometimes push to a bank if I know my opponent is low percentage, however I find a lot of players don't give back bank shots, they tend to fire at them, leaving the above scenario all over again. Against really good players I'm pushing to a jump or maybe just give them a piece of the ball 9 feet away, but if you can see the safety they probably can too. That is what I like about the push out rule there is a whole bunch of strategy that would never come into play without it.
But this is about APA. You get 7 pts for your break. If you can get seven of the ten points available in a rack you still finish the rack up 4 pts.
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I am pleased to report that I did not know that about APA.
We are also pleased
One can try to control the cue ball and somewhat control where the 1 ball is going but you can never control whether the 1 gets kicked or pocketed and if the cue ball gets kicked. If you can control the 1, 2 and possibly even the 3 along with the cue ball you are the most amazing breaker on the planet!! I work on my break pretty hard, I play mostly 8 ball on bar boxes (even though I have a 9' at home) because thats whats most popular here. I can park QB right between side pockets but I would guess that at least 50% of the time the QB gets kicked somewhere else, which unfortunately I have not found a way to control yet.
I don't know. Before I kick and risk leaving my opponent a shot I think would push most of the time. The advantage of the push is I can control where the balls are.
What am I missing?
You are missing on the break shot.
Honestly; believe it or not, I could do without the push out. It's really 50/50 with me if I get screwed or not. Seriously. I'm good either way, makes no difference but if push out were not available maybe some may work in their break more.
Btw....the push out rule does not affect my game one bit. I broke 6 times in my match this morning and never made a ball.
LOL Lo!, I feel ya. My breaks are typically big and ....DRY! The push out rule doesnt affect me much either!! LOL. On the good side of that, when I do make a ball, it have a good chance to run out. Too bad my game isnt as consistent as a pro or I would be.
You need to understand, APA 9b is not 9b as players know it. It is simply a game of rotation using 9 balls with all balls counting 1 pt and the 9b counting 2. Often making the 9 out of rotation costs you points if you could have run out more balls before the 9 ball. No jump cues no push outs making the 9b on the break, it is a totally different game than 9b as most people other and apa know 9b as.
Sim u said that near perfect . That's what I've been trYing to say for years lol. Good job sir!!
yes sir.. I always call it rotation straight pool as a joke because your playing to a points score.
Are people who call other complainers pansies the actual pansy . lol If you like the apa rules and have fun play ..if you don't then do something else. It's alright..your not a bad person. It's ok to have a different opinion lol
An accurate description but let me go into more detail for people who know nothing about the game.
Each match is worth 20 team points with 5 matches played for a total of 100 points.
The points awarded to your team is based on how well you played in your match. How the points are totaled up was posted in another thread but let me give you this scenario.
In Vegas my team was down 48-32 after 4 matches. I played the 5th match vs another 5 in a 38-38 race. I won 38-4 giving our team a 20-0 score to win 52-48. Now I only needed to win 19-1 but the other team protested to the ref to let the game continue in case their guy could mount a comeback when my inn in was over. I dont know if it was the sportsman...alcohol or ego...maybe all 3 but I agreed and went on to win 20-0.
It does not get more challenging or pressure packed than that in any game under any format in an amateur league.
The same with 8 ball. It's pretty challenging going into the last match being down 7-5. You face another 5 in a 4-4 race. The only way your team can win is to shut your opponent out 4-0. Either you win big or you go home.
Now I am not knocking bcapl as I think its a fine league with a great owner who does a lot for pool but lets compare its format to apa
In most areas 8 ball is a points based game....straight pool based on 1 point for each ball and 2 for the 8 if you prefer .
5 player play 5 matches with a total of 45 points available. Unlike apa team points required to win are based on the teams total handicap.
Did you know your team can win if they only need one point by you knocking your ball in on an illegal hit ? That is not quite as challenging is the above apa scenarios ..i dont think. Did you know you are awarded a point for every ball of your suit off the table each rack even if you did not pocket it ? And you guys want to call apa rules crazy ??
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Dont know for sure who you are referring to but its possibly me since I started the thread.:grin-square:
As for me possibly being a pansy? I have said it before on here and I will say it again. I dont have a problem playing in Any league with any rules. As long as my opponent and i are playing by the same rules its all good.
Guess you missed the question mark in the title. I never refered to any one as a pansy...more or less posed a question .
I do find it funny that people who bash apa complain...yes complain about the rules using such phrases as ..penalized.....punished....along with the obligatory....i lost to a lower level player so he must be a sandbagger.