2016 World 9-Ball Championship

From here.

The prize breakdown is as follows:
Champion 40,000 USD
Runner-up 20,000 USD
3rd ~ 4th 8,000 USD
5th ~ 8th 5,000 USD
9th ~ 16th 3,000 USD
17th ~ 32nd 2,000 USD
33rd ~ 64th 1,000 USD
65th ~ 96th 500 USD (loser of 2nd round in the loser’s bracket of Stage 2)
TOTAL 200,000 USD
Please be informed that there is no tax deduction from the Prize Money.
Local Tax: No deduction

Losers (non-qualifiers to Stage 2) in the last round of the loser’s bracket (Loser’s 2nd round, 65th~96th finishing) in each group are guaranteed USD 500.
No prize money for losers in the 1st round loser’s bracket in each group (97th ~ ~128th)
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Fargo does not tell who wins. It gives percentages.. and those percentages are quite accurate when talking about long run. One match is totally different stuff as all you know like poker.
 
spartan said:
awesome



so

Thu (4 Aug) 4am EST 11am local time

Shane v Kevin Cheng

Alex v Albin



Damn only 2 matches they could have scheduled 2 different times so both matches can be shown



USA 1

Europe 1

Taiwan 1

Philippines or Canada take your pick? 1 :D
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Canadian Passport + Canadian Champion + Canadian Spot = He's ours.


Regards

Nick B
 
I hope Alex wins, but I feel like this is Shane's year to finally win a world title.

On a side note, perhaps Cheng's is open win was no fluke. I have yet to see him play, but he must be very good to go so deep in elite level tournaments
 
Poolmanis said:
Fargo does not tell who wins. It gives percentages.. and those percentages are quite accurate when talking about long run. One match is totally different stuff as all you know like poker.
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food for thought

All 8 in the quarterfinals in Qatar have a Fargo Rating of 777 or higher. All are in the top 50 or so in the world by Fargo Rating.

Though any top player can get knocked out first round or fail to even make the elimination stage, this--770ish-- seems to be the kind of speed necessary to make it to the quarter finals in a major world event.

Given that, it is interesting to note WHO gets sent by Asia, by Europe, and by North America.

Representatives from most countries are from the top players by Fargo Rating.
For instance, top 3 in Canada by Fargo Rating are Pagulayan, Morra, and Crevier, and all are in Qatar. And then Ducharme is only a few places behind.
You can look at GER, GBR, POL, TPE, PHI, NED, ESP and on and on and you will find the representatives are from among the top by Fargo Rating.

USA is an exception. USA's representatives are numbers 1, 9, 15, 35, and 84 in the USA by Fargo Rating. [#'s 2, 63, 83, >100, >100 in the world by Fargo Rating]. For point of reference, USA has five active players with a Fargo Rating above 777, i.e., five active players in the world top 50.
 
mikepage said:
food for thought

All 8 in the quarterfinals in Qatar have a Fargo Rating of 777 or higher. All are in the top 50 or so in the world by Fargo Rating.

Though any top player can get knocked out first round or fail to even make the elimination stage, this--770ish-- seems to be the kind of speed necessary to make it to the quarter finals in a major world event.

Given that, it is interesting to note WHO gets sent by Asia, by Europe, and by North America.

Representatives from most countries are from the top players by Fargo Rating.
For instance, top 3 in Canada by Fargo Rating are Pagulayan, Morra, and Crevier, and all are in Qatar. And then Ducharme is only a few places behind.
You can look at GER, GBR, POL, TPE, PHI, NED, ESP and on and on and you will find the representatives are from among the top by Fargo Rating.

USA is an exception. USA's representatives are numbers 1, 9, 15, 35, and 84 in the USA by Fargo Rating. [#'s 2, 63, 83, >100, >100 in the world by Fargo Rating]. For point of reference, USA has five active players with a Fargo Rating above 777, i.e., five active players in the world top 50.
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And Siming Chen has maintained a rating of 770, she is the only woman in the world to maintain a rating that high. If she were to participate in the same event she would have similar results as anyone else who is 770 or above.
 
mikepage said:
food for thought

All 8 in the quarterfinals in Qatar have a Fargo Rating of 777 or higher. All are in the top 50 or so in the world by Fargo Rating.

Though any top player can get knocked out first round or fail to even make the elimination stage, this--770ish-- seems to be the kind of speed necessary to make it to the quarter finals in a major world event.

Given that, it is interesting to note WHO gets sent by Asia, by Europe, and by North America.

Representatives from most countries are from the top players by Fargo Rating.
For instance, top 3 in Canada by Fargo Rating are Pagulayan, Morra, and Crevier, and all are in Qatar. And then Ducharme is only a few places behind.
You can look at GER, GBR, POL, TPE, PHI, NED, ESP and on and on and you will find the representatives are from among the top by Fargo Rating.

USA is an exception. USA's representatives are numbers 1, 9, 15, 35, and 84 in the USA by Fargo Rating. [#'s 2, 63, 83, >100, >100 in the world by Fargo Rating]. For point of reference, USA has five active players with a Fargo Rating above 777, i.e., five active players in the world top 50.
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I don't know how it is done in Asia or Europe, but I think it is a bit misleading to say who was "sent" by the US. In Canada, for example, the spots in the worlds are allocated based on success in the Canadian championships, and there is prize money ear-marked to send players to the worlds (although I don't think it fully covers the cost). So you could say that the Canadian players were "sent" by Canada, although not based on FargoRating.

Does the BCA (or anyone else) actually pay to "send" players to the worlds, or is it up to each player to decide to invest in going? I know the BCA has spots, but if say Rodney or Mike D decide they don't want to invest the funds to go, presumably the spots get offered to people like Hunter.

If you don't have a national federation paying to send you, or sponsors doing so, you have to gamble on finishing very high in the field - anything less will be a pretty expensive trip.
 
mikepage said:
food for thought

All 8 in the quarterfinals in Qatar have a Fargo Rating of 777 or higher. All are in the top 50 or so in the world by Fargo Rating.

Though any top player can get knocked out first round or fail to even make the elimination stage, this--770ish-- seems to be the kind of speed necessary to make it to the quarter finals in a major world event.

Given that, it is interesting to note WHO gets sent by Asia, by Europe, and by North America.

Representatives from most countries are from the top players by Fargo Rating.
For instance, top 3 in Canada by Fargo Rating are Pagulayan, Morra, and Crevier, and all are in Qatar. And then Ducharme is only a few places behind.
You can look at GER, GBR, POL, TPE, PHI, NED, ESP and on and on and you will find the representatives are from among the top by Fargo Rating.

USA is an exception. USA's representatives are numbers 1, 9, 15, 35, and 84 in the USA by Fargo Rating. [#'s 2, 63, 83, >100, >100 in the world by Fargo Rating]. For point of reference, USA has five active players with a Fargo Rating above 777, i.e., five active players in the world top 50.
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That is very interesting, how many countries play their players to just play pool and represent their country? The USA doesn't and the top players in the USA are not garnering much attention or money. The key is money to play internationally. Yes, some have sponsors, and I know most money is won behind the scenes and calcutta's. But we never truly know what kind of deal is worked out with the backer. Other players do not have to worry about a backer, their country is their backer. They still get paid if they lose and they can still support themselves and their family.

I understand the pride and the glory of holding that title. Most players from the states would think twice about entering it when they are trying to make a living, competition just too strong, and salaries for pro players in the states are terrific. The 90's brought in more money than this decade, and their money was worth more. Pool scene is indeed dying in the US. It is going to take money to build the sport back up, and a true pro tour. Internet streaming is also damaging the sport. Without general public being introduced it will continue to die. PPV and streams are great, but only pool players buy them and maybe a bookie.
 
GideonF said:
I don't know how it is done in Asia or Europe, but I think it is a bit misleading to say who was "sent" by the US. In Canada, for example, the spots in the worlds are allocated based on success in the Canadian championships, and there is prize money ear-marked to send players to the worlds (although I don't think it fully covers the cost). So you could say that the Canadian players were "sent" by Canada, although not based on FargoRating.

Does the BCA (or anyone else) actually pay to "send" players to the worlds, or is it up to each player to decide to invest in going? I know the BCA has spots, but if say Rodney or Mike D decide they don't want to invest the funds to go, presumably the spots get offered to people like Hunter.

If you don't have a national federation paying to send you, or sponsors doing so, you have to gamble on finishing very high in the field - anything less will be a pretty expensive trip.
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Are you sure about that? I thought it has been stated a number of times that the BCA is the Continental Federation that covers Canada and does give out spots to their players, aka Klatt, Mora, etc., and that there is no award structure based on "Canadian Championships". The BCA was allocated 8 spots:
http://qbsf.qa/pub/2016-world-9-ball-tournament-information/

Or does the BCA then give a set amount of those spots to the CBSA Canadian Billiards and Snooker Association for them to award?
 
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Nick B said:
Canadian Passport + Canadian Champion + Canadian Spot = He's ours.


Regards

Nick B
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How come people named Alex get involved in controversies concerning nation status...
...was Alex Macedonian or Greek?
...is Alex Canadian or Pinoy?
:confused:

One thing the whole world agrees on...they are both GREAT
 
Rhea said:
And Siming Chen has maintained a rating of 770, she is the only woman in the world to maintain a rating that high. If she were to participate in the same event she would have similar results as anyone else who is 770 or above.
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I'd have to see it to believe it




1
 
pt109 said:
How come people named Alex get involved in controversies concerning nation status...
...was Alex Macedonian or Greek?
...is Alex Canadian or Pinoy?
:confused:

One thing the whole world agrees on...they are both GREAT
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I don't know about that but according to my son Alex ( 8 years old) in his eyes the world ranking is:
1. SVB
2.Alex P
3. Dad (Nick B)

I don't know what my Fargo rating but I like his order.


Regards

Nick B
 
Joe_Jaguar said:
Are you sure about that? I thought it has been stated a number of times that the BCA is the Continental Federation that covers Canada and does give out spots to their players, aka Klatt, Mora, etc., and that there is no award structure based on "Canadian Championships". The BCA was allocated 8 spots:
http://qbsf.qa/pub/2016-world-9-ball-tournament-information/

Or does the BCA then give a set amount of those spots to the CBSA Canadian Billiards and Snooker Association for them to award?
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To answer your first question, no - I'm not sure about that.

Based on CBSA's website, http://www.cbsa.ca , it would appear that spots may well come via the BCA:

"The CBSA is affiliated with the World Pool-Billiard Association (WPA), through the WPA's North American affiliate, the Billiard Congress of America (BCA) (see recognition letter, pdf format). With these affiliations, Canada is granted the opportunity to be represented at all World Pool Championships and other major International pool events."

Also on the same site:

"International Play: The winner and runner-up of each Open Pool discipline are the first two invites to the respective WPA World Pool Championship. Part of the prize pool is expense funds for the winner of each discipline. Other International Pool invites are based on a ranking system of the combined events."

I read this to say that the top two players in the 9b division are invited to (which I assume means given spots in) the World 9b. The winner gets subsidized on the expense side.

I heard, but do not know for sure, that in the past the CBSA has allowed the winners of other disciplines that don't have a World Championship to use the subsidy to attend another word event (e.g., since there was no world 10b this year, Morra - winner of the 10b event - might have been allowed to use the subsidy to pay for his trip to Doha).
 
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