Actually, he's a REALLY slow player in the one pocket match.........
I personally think he has every right to go as slow as he wants to regardless of the pay-per-view etc.... But he is a really slow and deliberate player.
Justin "The Putz" Bergman
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Actually, he's a REALLY slow player in the one pocket match.........
I personally think he has every right to go as slow as he wants to regardless of the pay-per-view etc.... But he is a really slow and deliberate player.
The question is why?
I've watched him play in one pocket tournaments and he can play faster.
So is it the money? That would be my guess. If the bet makes you play outside of your personal rhythm (slower or faster), then the bet might be too high.
Just speculating, but I don't think I'm too far off.
The truth is pretty simple.
1. He's playing for 40,000 (20 on each side).... its not that this is out of his comfort zone its that when you do something over three days for that much money you pay greater attention to detail.
2. Justin doesn't play as much one pocket as a lot of these one pocket specialist players (
(Danny is in this mix for sure)... so it does take a little longer to come up with what he thinks is the right shot as opposed to Danny who simply plays more one pocket and reads the table quicker and often times better in this match. Danny simply has more one pocket maps to draw from in terms of historical experience when making decisions.
3. And I think this is really a big part of it from watching this match....... Justin knows how explosive Danny is.... and add to that the fact that Danny is an excellent and creative shot maker.... I really think that Justin is second guessing lots of shots for fear that he is missing something that Danny is going to see.......
Its like playing chess against someone who is a little better than you.... every move you make feels like you are walking into a trap so it makes you tentative.....like walking through a really dangerous jungle..... you go overly slow sometime.... and I think from watching Justin looks a little tentative on shot selection.. like he feels like he's walking into a trap with each shot (when he's not in the middle of a run out)
I think the line on this match is simple... Justin shoots a little straighter and Danny is a more experienced (maybe better) one pocket player.... Some people think that Justin's advantage of shooting will make up for his slight deficit in one pocket knowledge and vice/versa....
If you add all of these up.. you get a pretty slow match by Justin.... He's also not the fastest rotation player... he's pretty methodical and intentional all of the time.... I think this is one of the things that hurts him a little at the Mosconi Cup... I think he feels rushed with the shot clock at times...
Huh?
I don't think anyone is saying his slower play makes him an arrogant tool.
Seems like a cool guy to me. Just slow.
Have seen fast players mess up certain tougher shots that require more time. That includes Drago, Shaw, Rodney
If they are taking too much time on simple straightforward shots, then they are slow
So where is the shot clock? Don't tell me 1P do not use shot clock. OMG
If they are taking too much time on simple straightforward shots, then they are slow
So where is the shot clock? Don't tell me 1P do not use shot clock. OMG
And whats your skill level?
I can beat the 9 ball ghost on occasion
It is One Pocket after all and not 9-Ball. There are so many options that it can take time to weigh out the best one. That said, we have used a one minute shot clock before with one (or two) extension(s) per game. That works out pretty well, enough time for most shots and a little extra when things get rough.
Even a 90 second shot clock would be nice, 1 time out.
I would bet that from the players perspective it is a backroom match. They are playing for the purse money, and who knows how much is riding on the side.
I doubt either player has given any thought as to how entertaining they are for Pay Per View, they want the cheese!
That's why it's called Pay Per View, so nobody gets stuck watching something they can't stand to see. But if you want to see it, you have to pay to do so.
A match played for played pure spectator entertainment is called exhibition match. Players will often throw caution to the wind.
You can witness more high risk/low percentage shots in an exhibition match.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exhibition_game
Exactly!
And how did all that speed and 1 pocket experience help Frost when he played 1P against Alex Pagulayan for $20K?
Yeah, because baseball is suffering from "slow play", only a billion folks watched the World Series. Only 30K fans fill up a stadium to watch it live, and another couple hundred thousand watching from home. Heck, they even get "time outs". Heck, they have replay. Pitching changes. Pitch hitters. Pitch runners. Numerous pitching changes, sometimes in the same inning.
For someone who knows a lot about baseball, you seem to know very little about baseball.
Or how to make proper comparisons
Are the players getting a cut of the PPV?
For certain they are. I dont imagine it being a whole lot though(not that many viewers).
Jesse Gilbert
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These guys are betting $20,000 of other people's money and you want them to speed up? Funny shit. Only people that are part of the 6 month subscription or paying the Ppv sees it. I'm enjoying the stream but I really love one pocket. Give justin 2 years to learn the game and only Alex will keep up. Watch
To further that, I streamed that event and watched the entire match. It was 5 days I think before Alex got ahead.
Wasn't that one 40/50k a side ? Can't remember but it was more than 20
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