Bustamante aiming system?

He uses a system of a PIVOT called Off-Set Aiming.
He does it very well by the way.

randyg


You have no clue what he uses.

It is his personal reality of pool. It is how he has learned to make adjustments, spin the ball, make the balls, and manage the CB. His stroke his so all over the place no one else could deploy it.

Lou Figueroa
 
Ha ha ha. More instructors selling aiming systems. That's the bs.

Busty has been interviewed and asked first hand about his non orthodox stroke. He said from his own mouth on a TAR interview somewhere on YouTube he doesn't use any aiming systems, yet all the instructors on here say he uses CTE or Pro 1. Give me a break!

Just ignore any aiming topic and figure out how to pocket the ball while getting the CB to go where you want.


Exactly.

The instructors want to put a label on it. There is no label. It's how he shoots with a stroke that no one else can deploy.

Lou Figueroa
 
I like the "natural aiming system".
Shoot so much that it becomes natural.
Do the same shot again and again and again.....then move to the next one.
Takes years but it works!
 
My game improved tremendously after I broke it all down and started from scratch. This included using some visual aiming aids that I still use to this day until feel takes over. For us amateurs I think the visual part of the game is more difficult because we are not on the table multiple hours a day. Pros walk around in dead punch from tourney to tourney so of course they can easily be playing by feel 99 percent of the time. We don't have that luxury so having a method to fall back on seems pretty reasonable to me.

There are a lot of players that have NO choice but to aim by feel because they really don't understand the geometry behind aiming two spheres at each other. It's a simple part of the game that is often overlooked with new players. I can remember being confused by it myself in the beginning.

So maybe I'm not necessarily an advocate for aiming systems as much as I value the importance of understanding how to aim the balls. I don't think it's as obvious as most players imply it is.
 
I appreciate your efforts to help the game by helping people improve their game. You shouldn't defend your position or allow anyone to challenge you because you charge for your information....,

Just ask those that claim to hate aiming systems to send you their Fargo rating or the list of tournaments that they have won or finished high in, or the people that they have matched up with and beat..,

Those list will be short.

thank you.
So very true.

You just can't fix Stupid.

randyg
 
I appreciate your efforts to help the game by helping people improve their game. You shouldn't defend your position or allow anyone to challenge you because you charge for your information....,

Just ask those that claim to hate aiming systems to send you their Fargo rating or the list of tournaments that they have won or finished high in, or the people that they have matched up with and beat..,

Those list will be short.

That list will be long .
There are more no system shooters than systemers .

Imo if there is some magic system, the pros will be all over it .
 
That list will be long .
There are more no system shooters than systemers .

Imo if there is some magic system, the pros will be all over it .

And, therein lies your problem. There are no magic systems. But, there are tools such as systems for learning. Pros already know how to aim, just in case you haven't noticed that little tidbit.
 
My favorite claim is all the, "well this pro actually does use an aiming system he just doesn't realize it, but if you break down his game he clearly is subconsciously using MY aiming system that I teach for $4,000 if you travel 600 miles for a two-day clinic"

Pool balls are relatively inelastic and have low friction so figuring out how to impart a net force vector pointed at the pocket is very very easy, you just hit the CB so it contacts the object ball 180 degrees away from the pocket, with minor adjustment for throw when required. I don't know how or why people dream of ways to make this so goddamn complicated.

Trust your brain to correctly calculate the CB's size and visualize the contact point and with even a tiny bit of experience, as long as you pay attention, you'll be automatically compensating even for high spin effects, and soon the possibility of even missing an open shot will seem absurd to you and you'll only be worried about controlling that CB into perfect position every time. If your brain is not naturally blessed with a good perception of spatial relationships, masses, forces, etc., you'll have to work on developing that feel but breaking it down into a completely verbally-communicable thought process is not how you get there, running racks will be mentally exhausting if you don't internalize the physics of the game at some point.
 
I appreciate your efforts to help the game by helping people improve their game. You shouldn't defend your position or allow anyone to challenge you because you charge for your information....,

Just ask those that claim to hate aiming systems to send you their Fargo rating or the list of tournaments that they have won or finished high in, or the people that they have matched up with and beat..,

Those list will be short.


lol, he would not like the comparison.

There's nothing wrong with charging for information. (Charging for information that is inaccurate is something else.) But, people will always want to believe there is a magic elixir that will give them an end run around hard work. Equally, there will always be people willing to capitalize on that fact.

“No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.”
H.L. Mencken

Lou Figueroa
 
And, therein lies your problem. There are no magic systems. But, there are tools such as systems for learning. Pros already know how to aim, just in case you haven't noticed that little tidbit.

And in case you haven't noticed, some claim this pro uses this system and that system .
" One pro switched to this system . "
Then he puts out a video that shows nothing about it at all.

There are no magic system ?
Well, some people claimed their games skyrocketed after learning one system. And this was years ago.
Years later, a few more dvd's and versions of the same magic system came out .
 
And in case you haven't noticed, some claim this pro uses this system and that system .
" One pro switched to this system . "
Then he puts out a video that shows nothing about it at all.

There are no magic system ?
Well, some people claimed their games skyrocketed after learning one system. And this was years ago.
Years later, a few more dvd's and versions of the same magic system came out .

So, some have claimed that. Heck, I'll claim it right now. My game improved dramatically after learning a few systems. That does not in any way make it a magic system. It however, does show that systems can be a very effective learning tool.
 
So, some have claimed that. Heck, I'll claim it right now. My game improved dramatically after learning a few systems. That does not in any way make it a magic system. It however, does show that systems can be a very effective learning tool.


I know one guy who claimed his game went up two balls after learning a particular aiming system. THEN he said his game went up ANOTHER two balls after spending 15 hours with the aiming system guru.

That's a four ball improvement.

Lou Figueroa
must have been
a -1 to start
 
I know one guy who claimed his game went up two balls after learning a particular aiming system. THEN he said his game went up ANOTHER two balls after spending 15 hours with the aiming system guru.

That's a four ball improvement.

Lou Figueroa
must have been
a -1 to start

And somehow, in your mind, because one guy may have exaggerated a little, that then equates to all systems are bogus, and all system uses are liars. :confused:
 
And somehow, in your mind, because one guy may have exaggerated a little, that then equates to all systems are bogus, and all system uses are liars. :confused:


Of course not and you know better than to even think that.

Lou Figueroa
 
I dont think anyone will ever figure out how Bustey aims. he almost always lines up at extreme edges of the QB on practice strokes and hits somewhere else, something you other players do as well. His stroke is also very crooked. Im assuming he can get away with this stuff because of the time he has spent with a cue in his hands.

Agreed. There is a very good player I met not long ago that would do the same in that he would aim very high right but then miraculously hit it just the way he wanted on his actual stroke.

I made a comment about it to him and he said "no, I don't." I said I just watched you do it several times. He said "no I don't". I said I was just watching straight down your stick on that last shot and you do. He said "no I don't". WTFE! :)

There is another guy that I see often that is a very good player as well and he has a hitch in his final stroke. Practice is fine but final strole has a quick pause about 2-4" into forward with stick sway and then he strokes.
 
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Of course not and you know better than to even think that.

Lou Figueroa

Yes, I do, Lou. But, your statement implied that it does. And, if you didn't mean it that way, then why even post it as a point that aiming systems aren't what they claim to be? When it wasn't even anyone selling or teaching a system that stated that.
 
Yes, I do, Lou. But, your statement implied that it does. And, if you didn't mean it that way, then why even post it as a point that aiming systems aren't what they claim to be? When it wasn't even anyone selling or teaching a system that stated that.


Do I really have to explain this?

Here's what you said and my response:

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Originally Posted by Neil View Post
So, some have claimed that. Heck, I'll claim it right now. My game improved dramatically after learning a few systems. That does not in any way make it a magic system. It however, does show that systems can be a very effective learning tool.

Quote:
Originally Posted by lfigueroa View Post
I know one guy who claimed his game went up two balls after learning a particular aiming system. THEN he said his game went up ANOTHER two balls after spending 15 hours with the aiming system guru.

That's a four ball improvement.

Lou Figueroa
must have been
a -1 to start


Neil, clearly (to most) my comment was satiric in nature, *particularly* since most guys here know who it was that made those claims about improving two balls (twice).

Lou Figueroa
 
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