Pattern Racking 9-Ball With Soft Breaking Video

[LIAKOS27]

Well that's your opinion and everyone is entitled to one. I call it a skill to make the wing ball and keep the cue ball in center table without breaking too hard and having the one ball up against the end rail every time. So in your opinion the top pros are all cheaters. :grin: Maybe pattern racking is cheating but breaking and making the wing ball every time with shape on the one ball is an impressive skill.

I'll go as far as saying it's a "skill", not "impressive" though!

I'll defend "cracktherack" a bit for using the word "cheat" because at the pro level,,, it is!

9-ball and 10-ball should be break and push out right after. Let both players get to the table "ONCE"!

 

[BeiberLvr]

I understand you now, "pattern racking" is 2 words put together that you in your mind....THINK you know the meaning of...LMAO

If the balls are racked in the exact same pattern every time, then the layout is going to be the same almost every time. It's sort of the whole purpose of pattern racking.

Watch for a lesson pattern racking and how the layouts are similar each rack. Of course, this could also be done with a standard triangle rack.

I'll be happy to change my mind if someone other than you wants to tell me I'm wrong.

 

[realkingcobra]

If the balls are racked in the exact same pattern every time, then the layout is going to be the same almost every time. It's sort of the whole purpose of pattern racking.

Watch for a lesson pattern racking and how the layouts are similar each rack. Of course, this could also be done with a standard triangle rack.

I'll be happy to change my mind if someone other than you wants to tell me I'm wrong.

Yep, just as I thought, ignorant to what pattern racking really is. I'm to busy at the moment, but as soon as I get a chance, I'll educate in what pattern racking is.

 

[jasonlaus]

Exactly my point.Van Boening has one of the best breaks in the world because he puts the time into perfecting it, 2 hours every day except Thursdays is 5 hours. I'm sure it is with and without a magic/accu rack.

NO!!!! HE CHEATS BY RIGGING THE RACK!
Jason

 

[jasonlaus]

If the balls are racked in the exact same pattern every time, then the layout is going to be the same almost every time. It's sort of the whole purpose of pattern racking.

Watch for a lesson pattern racking and how the layouts are similar each rack. Of course, this could also be done with a standard triangle rack.

I'll be happy to change my mind if someone other than you wants to tell me I'm wrong.

RKC has no idea what pattern racking is and NOBODY else ie gonna tell you that you are wrong
Jason

 

[Straightpool_99]

All "perfect" racks will give predictible results. That includes "tapped" tables, racking templates etc.. The "Magic" rack is particularly bad, since it loads the balls(they are leaning into each other). It's really a catch 22. Imperfect racks are unfair, but perfect racks makes the game boring. Also, without the benefit of racking templates, the matches will be 2 hour arguments about the rack. We've all seen one of those matches.

But there is a lot of faulty logic goin on on this forum! A predictible rack will in fact favour the better player. Think about it! With soft breaking the better player would win close to every time, given a sufficiently long race. The element of luck is removed at the slow speed. Order favours the better player. Chaos and luck can go either way.This is especially true with alternate break. You have no chance of keeping the better player off the table and deny him the break in that format.

Also "pattern racking" is explicitly against the WPA rules. Which means it is ILLEGAL. There is no alternative explanation or definition.

Gap racking is also illegal the way I read the rules!

...2.2 Nine Ball Rack
The object balls are racked as tightly as possible in a diamond shape, with the one ball at the apex of the diamond and on the foot spot and the nine ball in the middle of the diamond. The other balls will be placed in the diamond without purposeful or intentional pattern....

 

[OnDaSnap]

I call it cheating. Dennis O. is the best at it.

Not cheating. It is considered a skill and allowed in most tournaments.

 

[jasonlaus]

Not cheating. It is considered a skill and allowed in most tournaments.

You cant be serious
Jason

 

[realkingcobra]

RKC has no idea what pattern racking is and NOBODY else ie gonna tell you that you are wrong
Jason

Oh really? Well then why don't you pay attention and see.if you can lean something too....smartass!!!

First of all, using the stupid magic rack cheating aid, rack the 9 balls in the pattern I described earlier. The thing about 9 ball, is that if you can make at least 1 ball on the break, that leaves 8 balls to go. Now, of them 8, if the first 4 lowest numbered balls are all sitting in playable, open positions, you can pretty well count them gone as well. That leaves onlyn4 balls left to deal with to finish out the rack. So, essentially the secret is to turn 9 ball into 4 ball. The way you do that is to break the rack as I described taking note as to which ball or balls are pocketed. Then, take a picture of the remaining balls as they lay on the table. Break and repeat the picture taking another 20 times. Now, going through the pictures, look at the position of the balls by the number of the 4 lowest balls on the table first. If for example, the 3 ball never really seems to be open after the break say 18 out of 20 times....BUT, the 5 ball seems to be open and near a corner pocket almost all the time. Now when racking the balls, switch the 3 with the position of the 5 and break another 20 times, taking a picture of the lay out after every break. Now maybe the 1....2 made on the break, 3 & 4 are open, but the 5 is stuck most of the time, but the 7 seems to always be open at the head of the table....so, switch the 5 with the 7 in the rack. Break 20 more times, take your picture, now go through the last 20 pictures and look at the layout of the first 4 balls you're going to start with. If you like the lay out, then make a mental note of where they go when racking the balls, the rack will look random when racking if you keep moving the non key balls to different positions when racking, but your total 5 key balls go in the same rack position every time. Pick the wing ball you want to make and get rid of early, make sure the next 4 in rotation order are in the right places to be open after the break....and you only have to figure out what you need to do to finish off the last 4 balls remaining in the rack.

THAT IS PATTERN RACKING. If you think the rack I described is pattern racking, then rack the balls the way I described, and see how many racks you can run out of 20 racks, no BIH to start, but go ahead and use the magic rack....LMFAO

 

[BasementDweller]

Yep, just as I thought, ignorant to what pattern racking really is. I'm to busy at the moment, but as soon as I get a chance, I'll educate in what pattern racking is.

You really should just quit while you're behind. Your ideas in regards to nine-ball make almost no since at all. You are pretty much asking everybody to erase useful information out of their brains. It's not going to happen, nor should it. Wanting to go back to wooden racks is just a bad idea overall. Put the 9 on the spot and give everybody a decent rack and get on with it.

Going back to the days of the wooden rack and watching some uninformed referee rack the balls, all the while watching the 9 ball fly right toward the corner pocket on the break like in the 90's doesn't sound appealing to me at all. Going back to watching the crowd be amazed as the nine fell into the pocket due to a faulty rack isn't the direction we need to go.

The game has moved on -- it's time to accept it.

 

[realkingcobra]

All "perfect" racks will give predictible results. That includes "tapped" tables, racking templates etc.. The "Magic" rack is particularly bad, since it loads the balls(they are leaning into each other). It's really a catch 22. Imperfect racks are unfair, but perfect racks makes the game boring. Also, without the benefit of racking templates, the matches will be 2 hour arguments about the rack. We've all seen one of those matches.

But there is a lot of faulty logic goin on on this forum! A predictible rack will in fact favour the better player. Think about it! With soft breaking the better player would win close to every time, given a sufficiently long race. The element of luck is removed at the slow speed. Order favours the better player. Chaos and luck can go either way.This is especially true with alternate break. You have no chance of keeping the better player off the table and deny him the break in that format.

Also "pattern racking" is explicitly against the WPA rules. Which means it is ILLEGAL. There is no alternative explanation or definition.

Gap racking is also illegal the way I read the rules!

...2.2 Nine Ball Rack
The object balls are racked as tightly as possible in a diamond shape, with the one ball at the apex of the diamond and on the foot spot and the nine ball in the middle of the diamond. The other balls will be placed in the diamond without purposeful or intentional pattern....

Tight as possible is not saying touching each other. What everyone seems to fail to understand about the magic rack is that it elevates the object balls above the playing surface and out of the divits that form in the cloth where the balls would normally be sitting. That right there is where the Sardo rack failed, slight deviations moving the rack around widened the divits in the cloth so that after a while when the cloth was played on quite a bit, the balls wouldn't stay frozen to each other as the divits allowed the balls to move into the center of the divits which actually opened up the rack.

 

[realkingcobra]

You really should just quit while you're behind. Your ideas in regards to nine-ball make almost no since at all. You are pretty much asking everybody to erase useful information out of their brains. It's not going to happen, nor should it. Wanting to go back to wooden racks is just a bad idea overall. Put the 9 on the spot and give everybody a decent rack and get on with it.

Going back to the days of the wooden rack and watching some uninformed referee rack the balls, all the while watching the 9 ball fly right toward the corner pocket on the break like in the 90's doesn't sound appealing to me at all. Going back to watching the crowd be amazed as the nine fell into the pocket due to a faulty rack isn't the direction we need to go.

The game has moved on -- it's time to accept it.

I'm totally against leveling the playing field so that everyone has a chance to beat everyone else because of the racking aids, jump cues....and every other device created to give players that other wise wouldn't stand a chance....the RIGHT to say they're on the same level as the Pros.

 

[BeiberLvr]

All "perfect" racks will give predictible results. That includes "tapped" tables, racking templates etc.. The "Magic" rack is particularly bad, since it loads the balls(they are leaning into each other). It's really a catch 22. Imperfect racks are unfair, but perfect racks makes the game boring. Also, without the benefit of racking templates, the matches will be 2 hour arguments about the rack. We've all seen one of those matches.

If you watched any of the US Open this year, they solved that issue perfectly.

9 on the spot. Break from a smaller box. 3 balls past the headstring.

You still had a good amount of break and runs from the top tier players, but you also had plenty of really good play after the break.

 

[BeiberLvr]

I'm totally against leveling the playing field so that everyone has a chance to beat everyone else because of the racking aids, jump cues....and every other device created to give players that other wise wouldn't stand a chance....the RIGHT to say they're on the same level as the Pros.

So cheating the rack to allow one player an advantage is part of the solution?

 

[realkingcobra]

You really should just quit while you're behind. Your ideas in regards to nine-ball make almost no since at all. You are pretty much asking everybody to erase useful information out of their brains. It's not going to happen, nor should it. Wanting to go back to wooden racks is just a bad idea overall. Put the 9 on the spot and give everybody a decent rack and get on with it.

Going back to the days of the wooden rack and watching some uninformed referee rack the balls, all the while watching the 9 ball fly right toward the corner pocket on the break like in the 90's doesn't sound appealing to me at all. Going back to watching the crowd be amazed as the nine fell into the pocket due to a faulty rack isn't the direction we need to go.

The game has moved on -- it's time to accept it.

Sorry to inform you buddy, but racking aids were already in use in the 90s!

 

[realkingcobra]

What....no comments about what pattern racking is now? OK, I'll take that as you've all learned something then. Now when you see someone racking the balls....in a magic rack, and the balls appear to be being racked in random order, pay attention to where the 2,3,4, & 5 is racked, and see if the player racking isn't always putting those balls in the same spots, while the rest of the balls are racked where ever!!!

 

[Poolmanis]

If 2 is lowest ball i dont really care what pattern they use. It is solution for pattern racking.

 

[jasonlaus]

What....no comments about what pattern racking is now? OK, I'll take that as you've all learned something then. Now when you see someone racking the balls....in a magic rack, and the balls appear to be being racked in random order, pay attention to where the 2,3,4, & 5 is racked, and see if the player racking isn't always putting those balls in the same spots, while the rest of the balls are racked where ever!!!

No, we all went to sleep and now we're at work
Jason

 

[realkingcobra]

If 2 is lowest ball i dont really care what pattern they use. It is solution for pattern racking.

That's the point of pattern racking, to make sure that after the break, the first 4 balls you have to shoot in rotation are open to be played and not tied up with other balls.

 

[BeiberLvr]

That's the point of pattern racking, to make sure that after the break, the first 4 balls you have to shoot in rotation are open to be played and not tied up with other balls.

No. The point is to have a consistent layout after the break.

And guess what happens when you rack the balls in the same pattern each time? Some patterns produce easier layouts than others. Hence why pattern racking is illegal.

As far as using pattern racking to make sure balls aren't tied up. Well that's a first. I guess I always thought how tight the rack was played the biggest role in determining the openness of the layout.

Probably why we use templates