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mvp

mvp

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the new diamonds come with cyclops balls in the packages they offer. Most of the pool rooms near me have newer diamonds with cyclops balls. I have only played with aramith pros at home. Saying that, i can't tell a difference between centennials and the aramith pros in playability but the cyclops cue ball seems to shoot really light to me! It takes spin well and performs ok but Definitely different! Is it really lighter? What's the difference between them? And yes I'm using the search function also, but this is more fun!
 
I searched this and found they weigh the same as others so it has to be materials used???? Also no google search could tell me who makes them. Any clues?
 
mvp said:
I searched this and found they weigh the same as others so it has to be materials used???? Also no google search could tell me who makes them. Any clues?
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I haven't had the chance to play with them yet. Would you say they play light from the hit of your cue on the cue ball or how they react off the hit with each other?

This is all interesting if they are the same weight it might be the formula for their phenolic resin reacts differently when colliding with each other. I've seen posts stating that Cyclop needs less cleaning with the outer layer lasting longer.

Another experiment you could try is take same shots while alternating Aramith and Cyclop cue balls and object balls.

Maybe a few tangent line shots with same speed to see the difference in reaction?

There have been discussions about the red logo cue ball plays lighter than the measles cue ball from Aramith but I don't know if there has been an official study. Maybe doctor Dave could chime in here with some info.
 
OK, here we go again.

The Cyclop balls do not play light. The sets weigh out very nicely to pretty high tolerances. They have a higher percentage of phenolic resin in them so they are harder and, reputedly, can therefore be polished to a better finish.

My personal experience is that they stay cleaner longer, throw a bit differently, and that the zit ball (the new one dot CB) plays very much like a RC.

Lou Figueroa
 
lfigueroa said:
OK, here we go again.

The Cyclop balls do not play light. The sets weigh out very nicely to pretty high tolerances. They have a higher percentage of phenolic resin in them so they are harder and, reputedly, can therefore be polished to a better finish.

My personal experience is that they stay cleaner longer, throw a bit differently, and that the zit ball (the new one dot CB) plays very much like a RC.

Lou Figueroa
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Lou would you replace them with aramiths? Or use them up for a year or two? I'm also curios would you ever buy them yourself?
 
mvp said:
Lou would you replace them with aramiths? Or use them up for a year or two? I'm also curios would you ever buy them yourself?
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I just bought a set of traditional color Cyclop and am using them now. I actually prefer them to the Aramith but will switch on occassion due to the fact that many rooms and events I go to use the Aramiths.

I truly believe that the Cyclop, with the zit CB, is the nuts. Certainly far better than the Aramiths with the measles.

Lou Figueroa
 
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Lou thanks! They play fine in my oppion but just the cue ball reacts lighter or more sensitive almost like playing with a freshly waxed cueball ball on new cloth! Thanks again for the honest feed back👍
 
mvp said:
Lou thanks! They play fine in my oppion but just the cue ball reacts lighter or more sensitive almost like playing with a freshly waxed cueball ball on new cloth! Thanks again for the honest feed back��
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You be welcome, mvp.

Have you tried the Cyclop single dot, zit cue ball that's available now? They used it at the DCC last year and it is becoming more widely available. It is very much like a RC but matches the set. It's the nuts.

Lou Figueroa
 
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lfigueroa said:
I just bought a set of traditional color Cyclop and am using them now. I actually prefer them to the Aramith but will switch on occassion due to the fact that many rooms and events I go to use the Aramiths.

I truly believe that the Cyclop, with the zit CB, is the nuts. Certainly far better than the Aramiths with the measles.

Lou Figueroa
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I also have cyclop and super pros and prefer the cyclops.

I feel they play a bit heavier than my super pros, actually.

I am first owner of bothe sets, fwiw.
 
Black-Balled said:
I also have cyclop and super pros and prefer the cyclops.

I feel they play a bit heavier than my super pros, actually.

I am first owner of bothe sets, fwiw.
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Yes.

Subjectively, I would also say the Cyclop play heavier. I have no idea where the "lighter" feeling comes from for some guys.

Lou Figueroa
 
lfigueroa said:
You be welcome, mvp.

Have you tried the Cyclop single dot, zit cue ball that's available now? They used it at the DCC last year and it is becoming more widely available. It is very much like a RC but matches the set. It's the nuts.

Lou Figueroa
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Is the single dot the one where it looks 3 dimensional? It looks more like a button, if so that's the cueball I'm referring to! It's fun to play with but a little unrealistic to how it takes on the cloth
 
mvp said:
Is the single dot the one where it looks 3 dimensional? It looks more like a button, if so that's the cueball I'm referring to! It's fun to play with but a little unrealistic to how it takes on the cloth
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I don't know about the 3D part but it's the CB with the one big honking red dot. I really like the way it plays and after a short while, just like with the measles, you don't see the dot.

Lou Figueroa
 
Lou You're right they are not lighter, I'd like to replace lighter with less friction and more sensitive to spin, I think it makes better players shine a little more! My aramiths take more stroking which results in a heavier feel, takes less effort to spin a cyclops ball and the spin seems to last longer. Going back to what you said earlier about the material makeup of the ball itself.
 
lfigueroa said:
OK, here we go again.

The Cyclop balls do not play light. The sets weigh out very nicely to pretty high tolerances. They have a higher percentage of phenolic resin in them so they are harder and, reputedly, can therefore be polished to a better finish.

My personal experience is that they stay cleaner longer, throw a bit differently, and that the zit ball (the new one dot CB) plays very much like a RC.

Lou Figueroa
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I find they have less throw hold line a little better and I think they also don't grip the rails the same , in fact I think they play close to balls that have been waxed polished something I think straight pool guys like to do going for high runs , but I'll leave that to you cause your a straight pool guy ,
I also find the cue ball easier to controll off the break in 9-10 ball but that could be just me
I just had this cue ball conversation today , one of the places I play has 3 different cue balls , 4 cue balls red dot , red o , blue dot and the blue arimath , I like the red circle which is centennial . It plays much different than the others IMHO,
Guy said I was crazy

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If I were buying a new diamond table I would tell them to keep the damned balls, they're junk
 
lfigueroa said:
OK, here we go again.

The Cyclop balls do not play light. <snip>
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To you. It's a subjective thing, and I thought the cueball played lighter. This could be because I was playing on felt that was more worn, and without a set of Aramiths to compare directly to, I'm going by what I felt. It was also the more translucent style of cueball, if that makes a difference. I'm not saying they are lighter. I'm saying it felt lighter to me.

It's amazing to me that someone could tell me that what I was feeling wasn't what I was feeling, and do so with such authority.

I like your posts, Lou, but how something feels to one person or another really doesn't fall into an objective truth that a third party can decide.
 
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