Cue identification

I had a Josswest made in 1972 w/the same collar rings as in this cue...there was no "Josswest" markings on it at all. When I talked with Dan Janes many years later for authentication before I sold it, he asked me if it had a red rubber bumper and cortland linen wrap. It did, so he authenticated that it was one of theirs. Not sure when they stopped using the red rubber bumper, but if all is original it was probably made after 1972. I would suggest Danny Janes for verification.

Good luck and nice cue.

Dave
 
WildWing said:
Well, ok, Sterling then. I still remember the cue Giles shot with...

All the best,
WW
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And Herndon and sterling are neighbors, so it isn't like you are totally bat poop crazy...or are you?!

Can you tell more about Giles? I know basically nothing about the man, except tales of how he'd come down from the hills occasionally to throw down.
 
As far as whether or not the cue has been refinished, I don't believe it has been. In person when you look at it closely you can see a slight seam in the heel where the vertical white bars meet the circular white rings. Over the years the finish and materials have expanded and contracted and left that tiny ring. Whether or not it's been re-wrapped is a 50/50 proposition. For a cue this old the shafts are virtually pristine with very little embedded chalk and gunk. So, my contention is if the cue hadn't been played with all that much as to create heavily embedded shafts then why would it have had to be rewrapped? The wrap on the thing is virtually pristine as well but doesn't appear to be Cortland. (That's based upon vibe and no real evidence.) So far the consensus opinion is that it would fall in the $3000 range. The shafts don't have ivory ferrules on but what if they were upgraded to ivory by someone who knows what they're doing? How much would the cue increase in value? What about if it was refinished and brought back to it's original (if not better) condition? Throw some numbers out there for me so I can talk to the owner and see what she wants to do. Please understand I will not allow this super nice woman to be taken to the cleaners on this cue. She's just too nice and she needs the bucks. There are a LOT of extenuating circumstances that surround her getting hold of this thing.......
Thanks Gents.
V.
 
With regard to First Break in Sterling and the flood...........I believe it was that tournament but I could be wrong.......Dave Bollman and I were staying at a great friend's home in Ashburn the night before the tournament. Dave Bollman drove a massive barge of a car....old thing. That night it was sooooooooooo damn cold that the barge's horn kept going off. Midnight, 12:15 a.m., 1:00 a.m., damn thing was incessant. Dave kept kicking me awake and saying, "Vince...the horn is going off." Yeah....then get up and go turn it OFF, DAVE!!!! It's YOUR car!!" It was about 2:30 in the morning and he and I were outside, freezing our butts off trying to disconnect the damn wire. Finally I reached in and just yanked. The horn stopped.....went inside and back to sleep. Not ten minutes later......HONNNNNK!!! DAMNIT!!! Apparently I pulled the wrong wires..........I threw my shoe at Dave who got up, went back outside and cut some wire under the hood. No clue if that horn ever worked again.
 
Black-Balled said:
And Herndon and sterling are neighbors, so it isn't like you are totally bat poop crazy...or are you?!

Can you tell more about Giles? I know basically nothing about the man, except tales of how he'd come down from the hills occasionally to throw down.
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Well, there's a fine line between genius and insanity, as you know. :D

As for Giles, I only remember him from the mid-90s. Only met him once; we practiced a bit together in the above tournament, waiting for our matches. I saw him a few times during that time period, each time at First Break, coincidentally. He either won, or finished high. I would rank him as one of the best mid-Atlantic players of that time, and I'm talking about players like Cigar Tom Vanover, and Neptune Joe Frady, and the like.

If memory serves me right, I believe Giles was from the Front Royal area; I thought I heard that mentioned. He used a McDermott model D-17 cue at the time, with a very thin shaft. Very long, smooth stroke. I only happened to see him play nine ball at the time. I would put him about 50 years of age then, which is about 23 years ago.

All the best,
WW
 
I remember that gent. Wouldn't recognize his today if I tripped over him but I totally remember him and his name. I rarely saw Cigar Tom playing in any of those tournaments at that time though. Neptune Joe would pop up from time to time and he was always one of the front-runners.
 
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