Pool table brands to avoid?

I was budgeting at around $2k, I definitely want blue Simonis cloth, so looks like I'll probably be right at budget to get what I want--maybe a few hundred less if I'm lucky. Still, not spending $100+ in quarters a month, it will pay for itself in a year and a half. haha

Honestlyrics if you take your time looking aroumd; and it sounds like you have plenty of time, I see many tables even at that price range with either new or very good cloth already on it and it always seems to be Simonis.
 
Honestlyrics if you take your time looking aroumd; and it sounds like you have plenty of time, I see many tables even at that price range with either new or very good cloth already on it and it always seems to be Simonis.

Best of both worlds then! And yea, all the time in the world--if everything goes perfectly I'm still probably looking at next around Spring for a completion date. But if I find the right table, close enough, at the right price I'll definitely storage unit that bad boy. haha
 
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Correction made.

It's not corrosion at all. They were cross threaded most likely due to not starting them by hand before using an impact or drill to drive them.

I've seen black pipe screwed into copper and never corrode. I do believe a dielectric union should be used for that application though.
 
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I'm in the Atlanta area.

Then you are set. One call to mark gregorywill have you a happy table owner.

Remember that a pool table is a purchase akin to a piano: you are only gonna buy it one and barring some sot of disaster, it will oitlast you. Do it right!
 
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Could be regular corrosion.

Doesn't negate the fact that a coating of grease would prevent it from happening.

Yes B-B....

I Know All. See All.

The term that I used and heard to describe this situation is thread galling. Not a nice thing when it happens on the rail nuts. A little anti-sieze compound helps to keep things turning smoothly.
 
Then you are set. One call to mark gregorywill have you a happy table owner.

Remember that a pool table is a purchase akin to a piano: you are only gonna buy it one and barring some sot of disaster, it will oitlast you. Do it right!

Exactly the way I feel and why I wouldn't compromise on getting a GC.
 
I got one too!

Possibly the best purchase i ever made.

I'm definitley going to try. Whatever I end up finding, I'm hoping it has narrow pockets. The bar tables I shoot on has soccer goals for pockets and I think it really limits my game because I get by with so many sloppy shots.

I played at a guy's house a few weeks ago that had a nice 9' Brunswick and it was like I had never held a cue before. Completley embarrasing. Lol
 
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But, but, but...he knows everything and you should know.

The term that I used and heard to describe this situation is thread galling. Not a nice thing when it happens on the rail nuts. A little anti-sieze compound helps to keep things turning smoothly.
That's the point of my original post.
Never Dry Assemble Threaded Parts.
Grease, Anti-Sieze or at least Oil.
 
I know money is money, but you are probably looking at 40K at least for tearing down an existing garage, building a new 2 story structure, plumbing for a kitchen and bath, electrical, hvac, etc. What's an extra 3K then for a nice used GC with new cushions (if it needs them), new simonis, light, and installed by a good mechanic? Or 6K for a factory direct new Diamond installed? Don't get anything but these two tables, if you are wanting to be a serious player, and you have the cash to pay for a 40k building:)
 
I know money is money, but you are probably looking at 40K at least for tearing down an existing garage, building a new 2 story structure, plumbing for a kitchen and bath, electrical, hvac, etc. What's an extra 3K then for a nice used GC with new cushions (if it needs them), new simonis, light, and installed by a good mechanic? Or 6K for a factory direct new Diamond installed? Don't get anything but these two tables, if you are wanting to be a serious player, and you have the cash to pay for a 40k building:)

I'm not the OP but I'm also looking for a table. Like the OP, so far the search for a GC has not been fruitful (here in Atlanta anyway, and yes I've talked at length to Mark Gregory). Three grand for a nice GC? Heck, I'd be only too happy to write a check for 4 grand today for a nice one, up and running. I'd find a place to store it for the next several months until my house is ready. I've about come to the conclusion that if I want a GC (I do) I'm just going to have to belly up and pay a mechanic from another part of the country where GCs are more abundant to find me one, restore it and bring it down to GA. Whatever it cost it'd probably still be cheaper than a Diamond.

And can you actual get a Diamond 9' Pro for 6K? That would sure solve my problem, but I was under the impression that by the time I paid shipping and setup here in north GA the $5400. price FOB factory turned into a number 7K or over. Please educate me.
 
I'm not the OP but I'm also looking for a table. Like the OP, so far the search for a GC has not been fruitful (here in Atlanta anyway, and yes I've talked at length to Mark Gregory). Three grand for a nice GC? Heck, I'd be only too happy to write a check for 4 grand today for a nice one, up and running. I'd find a place to store it for the next several months until my house is ready. I've about come to the conclusion that if I want a GC (I do) I'm just going to have to belly up and pay a mechanic from another part of the country where GCs are more abundant to find me one, restore it and bring it down to GA. Whatever it cost it'd probably still be cheaper than a Diamond.

And can you actual get a Diamond 9' Pro for 6K? That would sure solve my problem, but I was under the impression that by the time I paid shipping and setup here in north GA the $5400. price FOB factory turned into a number 7K or over. Please educate me.

I bought a 2 private owner GC4, never in a pool hall, in Atlanta, on these forums, for 3200 installed. With new simonis cloth, a nice light, a wall rack, and Super Pro balls. Southern Billiards removed the table from the prior owner's home, and installed it in my home. I was happy with their work. Give them a call, see if they have anything available.
 
I'm not the OP but I'm also looking for a table. Like the OP, so far the search for a GC has not been fruitful (here in Atlanta anyway, and yes I've talked at length to Mark Gregory). Three grand for a nice GC? Heck, I'd be only too happy to write a check for 4 grand today for a nice one, up and running. I'd find a place to store it for the next several months until my house is ready. I've about come to the conclusion that if I want a GC (I do) I'm just going to have to belly up and pay a mechanic from another part of the country where GCs are more abundant to find me one, restore it and bring it down to GA. Whatever it cost it'd probably still be cheaper than a Diamond.



And can you actual get a Diamond 9' Pro for 6K? That would sure solve my problem, but I was under the impression that by the time I paid shipping and setup here in north GA the $5400. price FOB factory turned into a number 7K or over. Please educate me.



What about the craigslist GC1 I noted in an earlier post?


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What about the craigslist GC1 I noted in an earlier post?


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It's actually in Alabama, which isn't such a big problem itself, but the table has had a pretty hard life. It appears to have been moved while it was all put together, which raises more concerns as well. It would cost me $500 to have a competent mechanic go look at it, so just based on what it appears to be I've ruled it out.
 
I am in Atlanta and having my 9' Brunswick Metro Pro Edition delivered today by someone in Florida. He has several and I wish I had told you earlier.
 
I bought a 2 private owner GC4, never in a pool hall, in Atlanta, on these forums, for 3200 installed. With new simonis cloth, a nice light, a wall rack, and Super Pro balls. Southern Billiards removed the table from the prior owner's home, and installed it in my home. I was happy with their work. Give them a call, see if they have anything available.

Thanks very much for the recommendation.

Somehow these folks were not on my radar screen and I thought I'd talked to everybody in the area. I'll go see them soon.
 
It's actually in Alabama, which isn't such a big problem itself, but the table has had a pretty hard life. It appears to have been moved while it was all put together, which raises more concerns as well. It would cost me $500 to have a competent mechanic go look at it, so just based on what it appears to be I've ruled it out.



Fair enough. It didn't seem that far away (but I'm not familiar with the geography) and I'm surprised a mechanic would charge that much, especially if GCs are rare in your area - because they might pick up for themselves on spec or for someone else with the "if you ever find one let me know" history.


I don't know how to do this on Craigslist, but on Kijiji you can set it up to send you alerts for certain searches. So if possible I would ask for alerts for "Gold Crown" and "Diamond Pool Table" within an hour or two of you. You will get some false positives, but you might find one and you've got time.
 
I have done exactly that.

Money isn't the reason I haven't bought a GC. I'd be happy to pay the going rate but simply haven't been able to find one. I've come to the conclusion that you guys who give the impression that they're easy to find must not live in the south. It must be a regional thing, and very likely due to the south being swamped with Gandys during the heyday of the GC. I realize Gandy sold other places too, but they were all you saw in rooms down here back in the day. In talking to my mechanic/mover this morning he told me that in doing 12-15 tables every week for 17 years he's never encountered even one.

That's kind of that way it is here in Texas. Gold Crowns do come up for sale from time to time, but it's not like you have a lot to choose from. I wasn't in a big rush, so I looked around for 1 1/2 years before I found a GC I could get serious about. I actually bought it from a member on this board. It was in very nice condition, and the rails had already been rebuilt by RKC.

Well anyway, the point is time is on your side, so don't let it get you frustrated. A nice one will turn up eventually.

Good luck with your project. :)
 
I can have him call you; pm me your number. It was $2700 including delivery, installation and new Simonis 860.
 
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