Are these fake? Adams
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If they are "fake," the quality looks to be as good or better.
Why would someone put forth the effort to 'fake' cues that aren't worth much to begin with ?
I'll give you this though. I don't believe that they are real/orig Bushkas.
I also have some doubts as to whether it was George who actually signed them.
So in that sense, yes, these are fake; as they were intended to be.
Is your concern for the worth of some cues that never had any ?
How do you 'fake' cues that are already fakes ?
I'll give you this though. I don't believe that they are real/orig Bushkas.
I also have some doubts as to whether it was George who actually signed them.
So in that sense, yes, these are fake; as they were intended to be.
Is your concern for the worth of some cues that never had any ?
How do you 'fake' cues that are already fakes ?
Adam cues cave been copied/faked, including Adam made Balabushkas.
Why? Money, obviously. These cues sell in the $500 to $900 range.
Famously the fidget spinner has been copied a great deal and yet so often we see people doubt that Adam cues would be copied because they just aren't worth much money. How much id a fidget spinner? I think mine came from a dollar store. Yup, a copy.
IMHO these cues are likely genuine, but that can't be guaranteed from such pictures. Yes, the signatures look "thick" but I have seen others like that.
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Read up on the subject.
Here's an opinionated opinion......
http://www.poolchat.net/forums/index.php?/topic/10186-history-of-helmstetter-adam-balabushka-cues/
Here's more.....
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=1990670&postcount=8
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Fake means deceit is afoot.
Tribute is honest flattery.
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Guys, people here argue about that stuff all the time. It's really not worth your time.
We all revere the name and it got licensed. It could be worse. It could be on $50 K mart cues.
We know people have truly faked GB cues and we resent it.
I just don't let these Adam licensed cues bother me. They are decent cues. If I see one cheap I'll buy it and be happy with it. They actually have themselves been faked.
But why argue about the matter?
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We all revere the name and it got licensed. It could be worse. It could be on $50 K mart cues.
We know people have truly faked GB cues and we resent it.
I just don't let these Adam licensed cues bother me. They are decent cues. If I see one cheap I'll buy it and be happy with it. They actually have themselves been faked.
But why argue about the matter?
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I think I may have two of those knock-off Adams.
Higher end models with bad notches and spaces on the diamonds.
Off center MOP dots.
Turn marks on the dots.
Finished real nice.
Plays well.
Forward balance.
No other defects than the placement of the inlays.
Only paid $100 for each. No big loss if there are 2nd's or fakes.
Excuse the overly big images.
I don't know how to reduce them on my iPad.
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The joint rings on most of the "fake" Adam cues that I've seen have a "thin" silver ring rather than the "thick" silver ring that the original Adam cues used. The original silver ring was about as thick as a nickel.
The new GB cues, made in China, have thinner silver rings than those that were produced by Adam in Japan.
The same goes for the Hall of Fame line that was made by Adam. The "knockoffs" use the thinner ring.
The new GB cues, made in China, have thinner silver rings than those that were produced by Adam in Japan.
The same goes for the Hall of Fame line that was made by Adam. The "knockoffs" use the thinner ring.
justinb386
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The Adam Balabushka replica cues were very high quality cues (made in Japan, and very well made). Very nice playing cues too. The ones in the pics look to be in the $800 to $1,000 price range, and appear to be legit (not fake).
If they were original Balabushka cues, then you can take their value, and multiply that by 15 or 20 I think.
If they are new, then I think they should go for at least $600 (I assume).
I think they are really nice, and high quality cues. I always loved the Adam and Helmstetter cues. For the money that they are worth, I do not think you can find a better quality cue for the price. And, they are no longer made in Japan. The current ones are now made in China I think. I do not know if the current line of Balabushka signature cues are as high of quality as the ones that were made in Japan (by Adam / actually Miki cue company, who now make Mezz cues), but I would be very surprised if they are as high quality as the ones that were made in Japan.
justinb386
Banned
The joint rings look thick too, and I think that is an indication that they are authentic (I read on here, in another thread that the fake ones have much thinner joint rings). They look authentic, even from far away. Does the signature look off (out of the ordinary)? I think not, but I do not know.
justinb386
Banned
Nice post. Yeah, the Balabushka family gave permission to Adam to make the signature series cues. I do not know who makes the current line, but I know that it is not Adam (Miki cue company) any longer. I think they are now made in China, and probably not as high quality as the line that was made by Miki. I may be wrong though. I understand that cues from China are very high quality these days (Lucasi, and Predator to name 2 examples).
justinb386
Banned
I wonder if whoever is building the current line of Balabushka signature series cues is paying the Balabushka family royalty checks, or if they paid for a license to use the signature. If they did not get legal consent, then yeah, they are now fake (the current line that is being made today).
So I was quickly reading through and read this as $50K mart cues, as in $50,000 mart cues and thought that wouldn't be worse. I quickly realized that made no sense since I have no idea what mart cues are and that you most definitely meant Kmart cues.
Sorry it has been a long day.
I work at the Charlotte, North Caro;ina Goodwill store where these are at. They were donated by the police department. They are fakes. You can see real easy cuz they are crooked & the tips are messed up on the wood pieces. We can't believe anybody wants these. Thought you should know.
I've heard that somebody in AZ has the GB license from the family to make the cues and they are made in China.
I'll buy them all.
PM me.
LOL!
I guess it could be read that way...
We all have long days now and then.
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