I’ve never been banned from a forum until yesterday

Lol, good and evil? Your "backer" is as much of a liar as you are.

I am sure that you think I am talking about you. But I am not. Despite everything awful that you are I don't hate you like that. I think you're miserable and have zero heart. The fact that so many other people know you to be a fraud is enough for me.

As much as you been a vile troll you haven't made my list of the worst.


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I have no idea who, in your pantheon of JB haters, you've put the crosshairs on, John. This thread and your words in this thread have absolutely nothing to do with me. I quoted and commented on your words:

"I don't really hate anyone with the exception of a very few people that I would literally throw a party and celebrate if they died, the more horribly and painfully the better."
John Barton

You can try and draw attention away from that by attacking me and everyone else but nothing you say short of an abject mea culpa can erase the base, foul rottenness of that statement.

Lou Figueroa
 
That's Like Clark Smith owner of Malarkey's pool and brew in Tacoma WA not firing the cook that stole a 45 dollar Clear Mako bridge from me that I got in Las Vegas before Kamui changed the name to Vue bridge and stamped Kamui on it! The bullshit drunk owner stated " I can't fire him I don't have anybody to work!" I was blown away! 2 weeks later the bartender disrespected me while I was ordering a burger, walked away for over 10 minutes to clean up and talk with other people while I stood there, with same bullshit drunk owner sitting there watching this happen! I expressed my concern and told them I would never be back! The owner text me trying to fight me! I heard that he got special permission for minors to play a tourney and while they were there he got drunk and almost got into a fight with a customer in his own bar! Number 1 it's against the law holding a Mass 12 license can't drink in your own place while working! He has a drunk GF that stands at the front of the bar yelling and arguing in front of customers making a fool of themselves! Horrible people will always be horrible people!


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Nope it isn't like that at all. But cool story bro.... Been waiting for the right moment to unload on that?

Somehow I have the feeling that Clark's side of story might be different.

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There are people in this world that I don't want in my home....
...and I believe in capital punishment for certain crimes...
...but I hope I never express joy at someone's demise.

Clean that out of your system, John...you will be a lot more free.
I don't actually like it but it is what it is. I had been pretty good about eliminating the word hate from my vocabulary. As in not even using it causally. But psychologically I have to admit that some people are special at helping me to develop feelings that embody the word in the deepest sense I can imagine.

Mostly those people have faded from my thoughts but occasionally their names will pop up and I get a twinge of satisfaction imagining how they could be tortured.

I go feed the homeless on Wednesdays to alleviate my guilt. But I would be a liar if I didn't admit that I probably thought about some Hannibal moments where I thought of how great it would be to be serving up some of these trolls with a tangy orange sauce.

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Thank you, thank you all....made the last hour of my shift fly by reading this.
You are welcome. As George Carlin said "people value honesty until you're honest with them, then you're an asshole".

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I have no idea who, in your pantheon of JB haters, you've put the crosshairs on, John. This thread and your words in this thread have absolutely nothing to do with me. I quoted and commented on your words:

"I don't really hate anyone with the exception of a very few people that I would literally throw a party and celebrate if they died, the more horribly and painfully the better."
John Barton

You can try and draw attention away from that by attacking me and everyone else but nothing you say short of an abject mea culpa can erase the base, foul rottenness of that statement.

Lou Figueroa
Oh son, I absolutely own it. Why on Earth would you think I would care whether you quote me or not? I guess you think that I express my views without thinking about what I say. Every word is deliberate. Not every life holds value for me. If someone goes out of their way to repeatedly attack me with lies and vile racial slurs then I don't care about the quality of their life and feel that the sooner they are dead the better off that the world will be.

Again this is the freedom that being self-employed and smart enough to setup my business to be insulated from any possible harm that people think that their opinions of my views would cause.







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And Lou, before you get too comfortable on your moral pedestal. You have made many vile comments on here disparaging people with racial comments and accusations of fraud and thievery. You have attacked people's families and employees. You have gone out of your way to attempt to cause actual financial harm to others.

You have also watched other people commit vile acts and make statements way worse than anything I said and you have never once condemned them that I have seen.

Just a reminder to all, your job was to be a professional liar on behalf of the United States government. Yes you claim you never lied but what else are you supposed to say in your position. We all know that as public relations officer your job was spin the story whichever direction it needed to go in to satisfy the needs of the military. I don't think anything bad of you for that but in civilian life you have been caught several times embellishing and out right lying about events that you tried to spin to your benefit.

So I wouldn't advised you to place yourself on the "good guy" soapbox because it can't hold the weight of your duplicity.

And your backer, Michael Lalumiere, is also a prime example of a liar. He was banned from this forum for his attacks on me and rather than agree to stop he merely orchestrated more attacks that you willingly participated in. Both of you are negative, hypocritical and dishonest people.



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if you guys are removed from this forum
i will be happy

cry babies to the core
Sure throw out the baby with the bath water rather than take a stand for what's right. You sit there and see me get attacked. You have seen my wife get attacked. You have seen Stan's wife get attacked.

The enemy of good is not evil. It is apathy.

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If this is where you're now at, after 20 years on the pool forums, it's been a long sad slide for you, John.

Where I am at is exactly where I started. Saying what I mean and fading trolls. We run groups with 35,000+ members and have no members like you because our) rules don't allow your brand of negativity to flourish.

My business is flourishing. My family is healthy and happy. I have a great circle of friends and customers around me. I could not want for anything more at this point in my life except for the ability to let you wallow in your misery without validating your life by responding to you. But, instead of ignoring you as is prudent I will indulge myself and give you the thrill of the verbal fencing that you once told me you love so much. Consider it a gift of my time to fill your otherwise meaningless existence. Of all the people you have attacked over the years I have been the only one to stick with you and allow you to get your dopamine hits at my expense. You're welcome.





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The goat stories are absolutely true. It was a strange mushroom-filled part of my life.... Not proud of it but I really thought the goats were consenting.
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See that’s a great response to someone who is attacking you personally, that actually made me laugh. I think sometimes you just come off the wrong way. I get that being in a client facing role and dealing with the general public can be frustrating but there is right and wrong way to respond to criticism and personal attacks. That’s just my humble opinion and I’ve always lived by the saying your ego can’t feed your family.
 
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Sure throw out the baby with the bath water rather than take a stand for what's right. You sit there and see me get attacked. You have seen my wife get attacked. You have seen Stan's wife get attacked.

The enemy of good is not evil. It is apathy.

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My phone will not multi quote but I agree with the gist of your comments concerning the global economy. I also agree with some of your comments concerning Lou. I just can't agree with your comments concerning how you would feel about the demise of certain human beings.

I worked in the utility industry most if my life and never worried about a job. ... Until I had to deal with 3 back stabbing sob's who cost me my job. I found out later that 2 of them were fired later on for wrong doings within the company. I dont know about the 3rd one but hope karma caught up with him eventually also. No I never did anything wrong with that company and was eventually exonerated but it was too little too late .

Then I started my own company and the actions of 2 individuals that worked for a company I subbed from ultimately led to the demise of my company. Their actions cost me dearly and resulted to the point I lost everything...including my wife and wound up homeless sleeping in one truck I managed to hang onto. I learned there are a lot of conniving ...backstabbing.sob's out there who will do anything to better their selves at another human beings expense.


Time has a way of taking away the pain somewhat. Years later I still harbor some animosity towards the aforementioned individuals but I never could see my self being happy over their demise.
 
John John John. For the love of God...take your meds. The forum was humming along so nicely.
 

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Oh son, I absolutely own it. Why on Earth would you think I would care whether you quote me or not? I guess you think that I express my views without thinking about what I say. Every word is deliberate. Not every life holds value for me. If someone goes out of their way to repeatedly attack me with lies and vile racial slurs then I don't care about the quality of their life and feel that the sooner they are dead the better off that the world will be.

Again this is the freedom that being self-employed and smart enough to setup my business to be insulated from any possible harm that people think that their opinions of my views would cause.


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John, you should consider professional help.

Lou Figueroa
 
And Lou, before you get too comfortable on your moral pedestal. You have made many vile comments on here disparaging people with racial comments and accusations of fraud and thievery. You have attacked people's families and employees. You have gone out of your way to attempt to cause actual financial harm to others.

You have also watched other people commit vile acts and make statements way worse than anything I said and you have never once condemned them that I have seen.

Just a reminder to all, your job was to be a professional liar on behalf of the United States government. Yes you claim you never lied but what else are you supposed to say in your position. We all know that as public relations officer your job was spin the story whichever direction it needed to go in to satisfy the needs of the military. I don't think anything bad of you for that but in civilian life you have been caught several times embellishing and out right lying about events that you tried to spin to your benefit.

So I wouldn't advised you to place yourself on the "good guy" soapbox because it can't hold the weight of your duplicity.

And your backer, Michael Lalumiere, is also a prime example of a liar. He was banned from this forum for his attacks on me and rather than agree to stop he merely orchestrated more attacks that you willingly participated in. Both of you are negative, hypocritical and dishonest people.



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So sorry, John. But this thread is about you.

If it's one thing I learned in my career, it's that trying to pin the other guy -- when you're the guy under the gun -- is the weakest defense.

Thank you for your interest in national defense though.

Lou Figueroa
 
Where I am at is exactly where I started. Saying what I mean and fading trolls. We run groups with 35,000+ members and have no members like you because our) rules don't allow your brand of negativity to flourish.

My business is flourishing. My family is healthy and happy. I have a great circle of friends and customers around me. I could not want for anything more at this point in my life except for the ability to let you wallow in your misery without validating your life by responding to you. But, instead of ignoring you as is prudent I will indulge myself and give you the thrill of the verbal fencing that you once told me you love so much. Consider it a gift of my time to fill your otherwise meaningless existence. Of all the people you have attacked over the years I have been the only one to stick with you and allow you to get your dopamine hits at my expense. You're welcome.





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yawn.

Seems like I've heard all this before (many times) somewhere, lol.

Lou Figueroa
John you need
some fresh material
 
My phone will not multi quote but I agree with the gist of your comments concerning the global economy. I also agree with some of your comments concerning Lou. I just can't agree with your comments concerning how you would feel about the demise of certain human beings.

I worked in the utility industry most if my life and never worried about a job. ... Until I had to deal with 3 back stabbing sob's who cost me my job. I found out later that 2 of them were fired later on for wrong doings within the company. I dont know about the 3rd one but hope karma caught up with him eventually also. No I never did anything wrong with that company and was eventually exonerated but it was too little too late .

Then I started my own company and the actions of 2 individuals that worked for a company I subbed from ultimately led to the demise of my company. Their actions cost me dearly and resulted to the point I lost everything...including my wife and wound up homeless sleeping in one truck I managed to hang onto. I learned there are a lot of conniving ...backstabbing.sob's out there who will do anything to better their selves at another human beings expense.


Time has a way of taking away the pain somewhat. Years later I still harbor some animosity towards the aforementioned individuals but I never could see my self being happy over their demise.

I know it's hard to hear but it's how I feel. I really don't know what the big deal is? Let's be totally honest as humans and Americans and admit we don't care who lives and who dies anyway. We ALLOW thousands of people to die in American each and every day from causes that are fully preventable and treatable.

It's just a fantasy. Knowing me IF anyone on my list ACTUALLY dies before me and I know about it and there is some kind of comment thread about them I would muster up the diplomacy to say something nice about them and WOULD NOT throw a party. But in no way would I feel the slightest bit of sadness over their death.

Psychologically it is quite healthy to alleviate stress through imaginary role playing. To be honest all of these people are far from my mind most of the time. Pretty much only when I come to AZB and a thread like this erupts do some of the names bubble to the surface. The best thing I did was take a solid year off of AZB and develop my presence on FB. On FB I can and do flat out block trolls and they are 100% invisible to me. Here anyone blocked is still "seen" through the quote function and references. ON FB they CANNOT see me and I cannot see them AT ALL.

So being able to control my environment and block the trash did a lot for my peace. As you can see on AZB the trolls STILL are allowed to break the rules as evidenced by all the attack posts BEFORE I made one comment in this thread. Attacks that had NOTHING to do with the subject that Andrew brought up. Just people USING the thread to slander me, even the hypocritical ones who are nice in person and turn into trolls online.

So if anyone here wants to condemn me for being honest about a FEW disgusting trolls who have done things that would get them assassinated in a less civilized country if they did them to anyone there that is their choice.

I sleep quite peacefully at night knowing that I contribute a lot to my community and do what I can to help those around me. I am not perfect and never will be but I damn sure won't pander for business or let assholes bully me without resistance.
 
So sorry, John. But this thread is about you.

If it's one thing I learned in my career, it's that trying to pin the other guy -- when you're the guy under the gun -- is the weakest defense.

Thank you for your interest in national defense though.

Lou Figueroa

No son, the thread is about Andrew's situation. You and the other trolls made it about me.

And no, making sure that the audience is aware of the accuser's own character issues and hidden motivations shines context on the "accusations".

It doesn't matter though, I am glad that you have your moment of knocking so that you can feel better about yourself. The record is clear Lou, all the way back to Rec.Sport.Billiard of how you loved to rip on people for sport. My record is clear, I don't attack, I defend vigorously.
 
No son, the thread is about Andrew's situation. You and the other trolls made it about me.

And no, making sure that the audience is aware of the accuser's own character issues and hidden motivations shines context on the "accusations".

It doesn't matter though, I am glad that you have your moment of knocking so that you can feel better about yourself. The record is clear Lou, all the way back to Rec.Sport.Billiard of how you loved to rip on people for sport. My record is clear, I don't attack, I defend vigorously.


...I have to admit that some people are special at helping me to develop feelings that embody the word in the deepest sense I can imagine.

Mostly those people have faded from my thoughts but occasionally their names will pop up and I get a twinge of satisfaction imagining how they could be tortured.

...I would be a liar if I didn't admit that I probably thought about some Hannibal moments where I thought of how great it would be to be serving up some of these trolls with a tangy orange sauce.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpE6tmau7jQ

Lou Figueroa
 
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