Diamond Pro-Am Cushion Height?
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Fair enough.. I've only worked on one Diamond table. Not popular in my area. Never had a reason to measure the nose height. So, maybe I was off on that. But, not wrong on ANYTHING else in my previous statements. I've played on several Diamonds, and I am very familiar with how they play.
Try to discredit me all you want, but at least I back my statements up with facts and supporting documentation.
I have not. Not many Diamonds in my area.
Please tell me the error of my ways..
Where's your facts and supporting documents that show the artemis cushion height is different depending on which way you mount it???
I'll draw it on Monday. However, it's easy to understand when you consider that one side is rounded and the other side is flat. Sure, the nose height may be the same, but, with the rounded side mounted down, the point of contact is lower.
When you find out, let me know.
That would be correct, about 1 29/64"....or as i like to say, a fat 1 7/16"....same as a Gold Crown, because it's the K55 profile cushions on the right rail thickness.
Tha nose height isn't what i said you were wrong about, go back and read some more....you'll figure it out.
What is the correct nose height of the cushions on a Gandy big G????
perfectpocketz
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I'm not getting in to this shit....everyone's a rail and cushion expert.....according to themselves.
The 1-29/64 nose height on Artemis cushions is the exact same Hump side up or flat side up.
I built a small test piece the last time Greg Sullivan was at my shop this past summer.
He didn't believe it as well.....until I showed him....and Greg has the test piece in his trunk.
I'm not getting in to this because I'm not giving out what I do differently to rails and cushions that makes my rails play better than all the rail experts on this site.
Don't ask....figure it out for yourself if your wanting to get the best play out of your cushions.......and then realize....hey there's no money in this shit....I'm not going to do this....LOL
That's what ya get when you spend a lot of time trying for perfection.
Best to be like all the others.....con everyone into how your tables are the best the guy doing my rails play as good as Mark's rails he does......yeah right.....but hey what do these people know.....only what I tell them.
Look at the people doing rail work and selling restored tables.
Now you know why I don't get into this shit.....I know my work and that's all I need to know......if people want the best.....they call me and pay my prices.
But they love what they get from my work.
Mark Gregory
Sorry Mark, you didn't want to get into this sh8, but you did.
Your tables bank the truest , I am told by a good authority in the subject.
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I've never considered myself a rail expert, nor would I ever make comparisons to your work. Despite being able to do my own rail work, I still recommend your services to anyone seeking quality rail rebuilds.
This argument is more for the purpose of showing that Glen is not the only guy around who knows a thing or two about rails. It's not the artistry that some make it out to be. If you take a scientific approach, it's relatively easy to analyze cause and effect. Granted, I may not have the same number of years of trial and error that some of you have, but I've been around long enough to pick up a few things.
I just get so sick and tired of the "you don't know shit" comments, and the superiority complex that goes with it. If I make a false statement, tell me why it's wrong. Don't just insist that I don't know what I'm talking about, and try to discredit me. I've studied this shit myself, just like you guys. I've put in the time, and I've spent a ton of cash figuring it out. I don't claim to be any better than, or even just as good as, anyone else. I perform quality work, and I am very transparent. That's all I can say. Further, rebuilding rails is not really a service that I promote. Sure, I do it.. but that's a small part of what I do.
Got it, thanks.
Can I ask the purpose of the gap between bed cloth and bottom of the rails, for future reference? Seems to be a bit of a dirt trap, doesn't look so good.
Because not all cloth is the same thickness, and spring loaded staplers don't always set the head of the staples flat to the dado so, there's a cloth relief cut into the bottom of the rail where the cmoth staples to the bottom of the rail. Without that relief, the cushion nose height would change from cloth to cloth.
Sorry Mark, you didn't want to get into this sh8, but you did.
Your tables bank the truest , I am told by a good authority in the subject.
Mark and i both know his rails bank true, we compare our rails back and forth, that's how we know for sure they bank right!!!
Sorry Mark, you didn't want to get into this sh8, but you did.
Your tables bank the truest , I am told by a good authority in the subject.
Just so you know Joey, Mark and i talk almost everyday, and discuss every aspect of the tables, and Mark and i share the same secrets about rail playabilitys....how do you think we arrived at the measurements we use today....by keeping secrets from each other? It's not about me teaching Mark, or Mark teaching me....it's always about one of use saying, what if we do this, or that...what would that effect, or change, or better! That's what YOU just absolutely refuse to understand, which is why like a little kid....keep trying to throw your BS into a comment any chance you get!