Racking the 9 on the spot

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I have a matchup this weekend and he wants to rack the 9 on the spot. What are the advantages/disadvantages of doing this? I’m guessing it is mainly to avoid wing balls and the 9 ball from going, is there more to it? How should I break them?
 
You obv know each table has its own attributes, but seems to me that the pros use the cut break when the rack goes up.

I'd say pay attention to where the 1 goes and don't be hesitant to try different speeds, break locations, elevation to back of cue...

Knock em dead, sweetiie.

Let me know if you need a loan, after. I will send you to joeyA
 
You obv know each table has its own attributes, but seems to me that the pros use the cut break when the rack goes up.

I'd say pay attention to where the 1 goes and don't be hesitant to try different speeds, break locations, elevation to back of cue...

Knock em dead, sweetiie.

Let me know if you need a loan, after. I will send you to joeyA

I’ll practice that! This dude is tough, maybe I’ll just copy what he does.
 
I’ll practice that! This dude is tough, maybe I’ll just copy what he does.

Maybe you play sets each way? Nina on the spot one set, then 1 on the spot, next?

But seriously...at our level, how many games are really won from the break?

I don't think it will have significant impact on the result.

Bust that chump. He doesn't have red hair, does he?!
 
I have a matchup this weekend and he wants to rack the 9 on the spot. What are the advantages/disadvantages of doing this? I’m guessing it is mainly to avoid wing balls and the 9 ball from going, is there more to it? How should I break them?
If he's insisting you rack that way in order for him to play you, apparently you must have a strong break, you often run out, and he feels he needs to change up something to have a chance to beat you. Based on his demands, sounds like you have a mental advantage over him to start with. I'd suggest just saying you don't really care how the balls are racked, you'll play him regardless.
 
I have a matchup this weekend and he wants to rack the 9 on the spot. What are the advantages/disadvantages of doing this? I’m guessing it is mainly to avoid wing balls and the 9 ball from going, is there more to it? How should I break them?

It's a better way to play the game, in my opinion.

Takes away the wired wing ball, but the one in the side is still on using a cut break - the difference is if you're playing to make the one, you can't also control it (like you can when playing to make a wing ball) and so its a less static layout post break.

So yeah, cut break from the rail, aiming to make the one in the side.
 
Maybe you play sets each way? Nina on the spot one set, then 1 on the spot, next?

But seriously...at our level, how many games are really won from the break?

I don't think it will have significant impact on the result.

Bust that chump. He doesn't have red hair, does he?!

No he doesn’t, but he plays against a guy with red hair and is up on him over the last few months.
 
If he's insisting you rack that way in order for him to play you, apparently you must have a strong break, you often run out, and he feels he needs to change up something to have a chance to beat you. Based on his demands, sounds like you have a mental advantage over him to start with. I'd suggest just saying you don't really care how the balls are racked, you'll play him regardless.

That’s exactly what I did. I said, “yeah, that’s perfect”.:D. Then I immediately came here to get some help.
 
How about a different look at your situation.
Rack the 1 on the spot as normal.
Request the 2 3 4 5 not be a WING ball.

This will keep the low number set on the table more often.

My quick $0.0002
 
How about a different look at your situation.
Rack the 1 on the spot as normal.
Request the 2 3 4 5 not be a WING ball.

This will keep the low number set on the table more often.

My quick $0.0002

Madness.

I will explain how 9b is played: you have to make the first, second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth and ninth balls.

Often, I call them ray, ed, bill, mike, jack, Ron, brad, Gary and Pete.

Doesn't really matter what you call them. They are all there.
 
How about a different look at your situation.
Rack the 1 on the spot as normal.
Request the 2 3 4 5 not be a WING ball.

This will keep the low number set on the table more often.

My quick $0.0002

Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm just not following. Should I care if the low number balls are still on the table vs. the high balls being there?
 
Madness.

I will explain how 9b is played: you have to make the first, second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth and ninth balls.

Often, I call them ray, ed, bill, mike, jack, Ron, brad, Gary and Pete.

Doesn't really matter what you call them. They are all there.

Is this how you get banned?
 
Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm just not following. Should I care if the low number balls are still on the table vs. the high balls being there?

I understand that you were having an issue with the opponent making the wing ball more often that a different suggestion could spark other possible ideas. Hence "My $0.0002
On the league I'm on, some players have a hard time seeing dark or light colored balls, green ball on green cloth, etc. and have a little higher % of miss. An advantage is just that an advantage as long as it's legal.
. . . . .

Insult? No but someone could easily take it that way.
Assuming, almost always gets the ASSUME'R in hot water.
________________________________________
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:
My current average position on a 9 ball league, 4th..
Other ratings, APA 7, BCA 27 (o.o.p. 36)
 
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I understand that you were having an issue with the opponent making the wing ball more often that a different suggestion could spark other possible ideas. Hence "My $0.0002
On the league I'm on, some players have a hard time seeing dark or light colored balls, green ball on green cloth, etc. and have a little higher % of miss. An advantage is just that an advantage as long as it's legal.
. . . . .

Insult? No but someone could easily take it that way.
Assuming, almost always gets the ASSUME'R in hot water.
________________________________________
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:
My current average position on a 9 ball league, 4th..
Other ratings, APA 7, BCA 27 (o.o.p. 36)


I have no issues with anyone making any balls on the break, just trying to learn why the 9 on the spot may or may not be an advantage.
 
I have no issues with anyone making any balls on the break, just trying to learn why the 9 on the spot may or may not be an advantage.

What I skim read on the Net, it seems others are having the same issue about Wing Ball Potting.
So far, reading and videos that show this 9 on the spot, they have found it's breaking the Wing Ball trend.
Will it be accepted by the masses? I would vote yes, 9 on spot.

I'm not one who NEEDS to win, I don't play for $$. Winning is nice of course but after 60 years of pool, I'd rather have more players in the system enjoying for what it is than how it was...(eg: movie "Hustler")

Looooong ago I penned a pocket book called "Alternative games of pool". Sadly it didn't sell well. It was designed to help equal out players without the use of averages. Example: "9 Ball, last pocket". Only problem with that is, if the 9 is pocket hanging.
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