Ditto...aiming-shmaiming...here’s a system you don’t have to pay for...learn the fundamentals and practice, practice, practice...spend more time at the table by yourself...
No Aiming System?
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Ditto...aiming-shmaiming...here’s a system you don’t have to pay for...learn the fundamentals and practice, practice, practice...spend more time at the table by yourself...
Pangit got banned. If you started playing pool in 1960 as you stated, that's the way it was done. No books, no videos, no internet, no cellphones and guys were tight lipped about what they did.
You've gotta be in your 70's now. Times are different with a lot more available to short cut the process.
How good did you get and what level did you achieve from the way you did it?
Can you post a video of yourself at the table now?
Respectfully, kindly, NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!
People who will pay me a decent amount for a lesson are often THOSE guys and gals who want to be better but have gotten stuck for years or longer.
We do some simple things with stance, aim and stroke and then the "touch and feel" they want is there.
I'm having trouble keeping students (as are some teachers here, you betcha) because I and they give that great first lesson and they're so much better, they rock pool. "I'm not a chiropractor and you don't need three adjustments weekly, give me an hour or two of focused attention and you'll do what I do, either sink every cut shot or miss by hitting right near the pocket points."
No one can get touch and feel with bad fundamentals. Give 'em the real deal, like fix their aim, and it's awesome how quickly their stroke and position get "feel".
"read all the crappola out there"
Of course! WHICH SPORT other than pool does NOT have a million books and DVDs, 80% of which are garbage!
There are REALLY helpful teachers, systems, books and DVDs in this world. Keep looking.
Of course! WHICH SPORT other than pool does NOT have a million books and DVDs, 80% of which are garbage!
There are REALLY helpful teachers, systems, books and DVDs in this world. Keep looking.
True enough.
I started in about 1983. Sure there books, probably even a video or two, but not in my little boondock town. If you didn't know a good player then you had zero knowledge available to you except whatever you could figure out on your own. It was obvious where the cb needed to be in order to send an ob to a pocket. Developing a stroke and a stance and a good idea of how to get the cb to that spot from different angles was the challenge. I got pretty good at it when in a short time, just a few months of playing at friends' houses when I could. Then by the time I was 18 I had a decent stroke and was lucky enough to meet an old guy that showed me some things and helped me out a great deal.
And why is that in most cases? I want an answer mr Lou. An answer in terms of can or cant and why.
If nobody knows why for sure, then "can't" will be more likely the result, but this does not explain a argument for "can" and why.
This thread, within the first few postings, drove me nuts.
I used to "not miss" the pocket to a semi pro degree, but my cb position was extremely suspect, as well as certain shots that, hitting the pocket, would be a impossible "make", so cb position in those cases werent even in the equation and in uncertain terms "could never be".
So what was the problem? A little tweak here and there needed? A perfect touch to hit a proverbial bullseye within a eye or else its make or miss for cb and or ob or both?
WHAT is.....THUH FOR'mewww'LUH for compensation sir, for being raped by four black guys......or 4 white guys?
Fo'teen years counselor, not to mention the family i lost or the dignity i lost.
Why badger the aiming forum paultex? Why not go badger the main forum?
LOLLLBUUUUWAHAHAHA ......badger. You ever been a woman?
Have a greatly ately day peeples. I swear tuh gawwww ima bust err'one an make'em reh'lee feel it mang.
Anyone, even someone who has never seen a pool table, could see which direction an OB must travel in order to hit a certain pocket. Then, knowing the CB is going to have to be the object to send that OB on its way, it doesn't take much figuring to see where the CB needs to be.
You already know that some people are born with superior hand-eye coordination when compared to others. These types of people pick up on things much quicker than the average person, almost like they have a built-in touch for it, when others have to work at it much harder to develop such a touch. But it doesn't mean the average person can't be just as good. They'll just have to work harder for it or find a more efficient way of learning whatever skill it is.
What the old guy taught me was to follow through on my stroke. He also taught me shape. I could pocket balls, but my cb control was not very good. Running a rack of 8ball was simple because you could be out of line, but as long as you had a shot you could still get out. He introduced me to nine ball and cricket, and I couldn't win because I played lousy shape. He showed me how to use the 90° tangent line to predict where the the cb would go. It was an enlightenment that first caused me to miss a lot of shots before it finally started clicking.
It's funny to think of that guy today. His name was Tommy Newkirk. He was probably in his late 40's then, younger than I am now, and I thought of him as an old man back then. Damn.
Sad but true. I thought a person was over the hill when they hit 40+ and here I am. Not old as you though. :grin:
I'll turn 50 on the 12th, while at the expo. Damn 50. But I'm married to a 44 year old, and that should count for something.
That old mentor I had was awesome. He was my dad's friend. Dad wasn't much of a pool player, but he sure could drink like one. Those two would gage a road trip in pints, not hours or miles. I don't know they lived as long as they did.
Some guys start too late in life. Others are not wired to self-diagnose or internalize instruction. Others are not willing, or maybe just not able, to do the roadwork, the reps, and put in the disciplined practice. Others do not have a knack for spacial relations or perhaps are impeded by poor eye sight or other physical woes.
Lou Figueroa
Ok thanks, just making sure it wasnt due to some sort of inate ability thing, because heres the problem, somebody looking for knowledge, reads a statement, and assumes it either you can or cant.
Next hurdle is, what exactly to work on and whats involved and what are the facts related to the entire endeavor.
Theres a universal mindset in pool espeacially, where most want to argue or disbelieve or dismiss whats actually there, based off of their own beliefs and limitations.
To get even the average person to acknowledge whats possible, instead of what they can do or limited to, is extremely difficult.
So far, no ground has been broken, as to what should be accepted as facts and what the table demands, simply because its there.
Thanks sir.
I appreciate that post! It means much to me. Thanks!
Good post. I have played for 55 years and didn’t know there was an aiming system. They are all easy to understand and I find myself trying them out but reverting to my just finding the contact area on the object ball and rarely using a system unless I question my judgement. I just feel the systems are to mechanical to use on a regular basis and not that consistent.
Any and all systems can be mechanical in the beginning when learning them or using a particular system infrequently or occasionally.
Once internalized, there really isn't much thought at all.
If you use CONTACT POINTS as your method of choice, look into Joe Tucker's Contact Point Aiming Balls Set. You won't be questioning your judgment any more or guessing. Can an old dog be taught new tricks?
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Your response to comments on AZB is living proof there are more horses asses in this world than horses. I’m sure that your silver tounge has got you a butt whipping more than once.
Doesn't surprise me, about not knowing there were aiming systems. Most players don't know. Unless you're an online guru searching Google for "pool aiming system", or active in online billiards forums, you'd have no clue about anything other than what you can gather from local players or local bookstores.
The internet has only been around since the 1990's, and it wasn't too widespread on availability then, so about any pool player that had a decent game prior to that wasn't necessarily shopping online for learning or improvement methods, and most of the millions of pool players around the world had never heard of Hal Houle or any other aiming guru.
Even today, if you go into any pool room and randomly ask if anyone has heard of Hal Houle, you'll more than likely get, "who's he?", unless you just happen to find one of the few thousand or so online forum members that follow such things. I mean, I think AZ has about 160,000 members, which is a thin slice of the total amount of pool players in the world, and of this 160k membership many are not following aiming or instruction forums. So it's no surprise that the average player is more or less self-taught with whatever resources can be found locally.