Roll-out ( 2 fouls, ball in hand )

I will add one more thing. As I understand it, the reason for going to One-Foul was to speed the game up. I think that One-Foul has evolved over time to where it actually may be slower than Push-Out. When One-Foul was introduced, the players slammed the shot with the hopes of the ball finding a pocket. Now with ducking on difficult shots, and playing safe rather than opting for low percentage position, and the kick-safe, One-Foul has slowed considerably.
Yep. When we played push-out the game had more of an offensive, shooting rhythm to it. With all the ducking, grabbing the jump cue, yada-yada-yada the game is actually slower now. I really wish "honest effort" was still played. You tried to hit the ball and if you fouled he could make you shoot again. This game was fun and fast. I know we're stuck with OF but it still sucks.
 
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I will add one more thing. As I understand it, the reason for going to One-Foul was to speed the game up. I think that One-Foul has evolved over time to where it actually may be slower than Push-Out. When One-Foul was introduced, the players slammed the shot with the hopes of the ball finding a pocket. Now with ducking on difficult shots, and playing safe rather than opting for low percentage position, and the kick-safe, One-Foul has slowed considerably.

Couldn't possibly agree more strongly. In fact, I said nearly the same thing earlier in the thread. And, so... the ONE possible "saving grace" for one foul has been shot all to hell. I say, it's time for the torches and pitchforks! Let's take back our heritage!!! :grin-square:

Push out says to One foul ---> :bash:
 
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Yep. When we played push-out the game had more of an offensive, shooting rhythm to it. With all the ducking, grabbing the jump cue, yada-yada-yada the game is actually slower now. I really wish "honest effort" was still played. You tried to hit the ball and if you fouled he could make you shoot again. This game was fun and fast. I know we're stuck with OF but it still sucks.

But we're not stuck with it, Gar! As long as the human spirit exists, there is hope. Never Give Up! RESISTANCE! HELL NO WE WON'T GO!
 
I might add that Toby and I were playing even 9 ball for $50 a game.
He had me 8 games loser because he won every push out.

I was from the South and had not played a lot of it.

Finally I got frustrated and pushed out for an end rail bank.

He passed and I did it three times is a row and ran out.

Toby quit me 5 games winner and said he would play some more at 7/11.

I took a pass.

It was one of the few times I lost playing 9 ball.

Bill S.
 
I might add that Toby and I were playing even 9 ball for $50 a game.
He had me 8 games loser because he won every push out.

I was from the South and had not played a lot of it.

Finally I got frustrated and pushed out for an end rail bank.

He passed and I did it three times is a row and ran out.

Toby quit me 5 games winner and said he would play some more at 7/11.

I took a pass.

It was one of the few times I lost playing 9 ball.

Bill S.

He was a special player, Bill. And a kudo to you as well. I think he felt he had a pretty good reason to quit winner. ;)
 
I say, it's time for the torches and pitchforks! Let's take back our heritage!!!

Push-Out was more than a set of rules. It was part of a culture that has gone by the wayside.

In the 70s it was: Nine-Ball, find some action, and carry a bankroll.

Today it's: Eight-Ball, find a league, and carry a bank card.
 
Push-Out was more than a set of rules. It was part of a culture that has gone by the wayside.

In the 70s it was: Nine-Ball, find some action, and carry a bankroll.

Today it's: Eight-Ball, find a league, and carry a bank card.

Perfect. Ab so lute ly perfect.
 
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