Full Time Revo User Tried The Becue
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In the past few months I had become intrigued by these carbon composite cues and decided to try one. After reading all of the reviews, and the fact that I can get it in 60", I just put in my order for a Becue. It's going to be quite the change from what I typically play with but I'm looking forward to trying it out! I went all-in with both the 5.1 and Prime as I've never really played with a conical taper, outside of house cues. I'm also getting the extension and LBS weights and am looking forward to reporting my experience.
The two things I'm most excited about are the reports that it has a feel very similar to a maple shaft and that it doesn't have the harsh vibration you can sometimes get on an extreme side spin shot.
The two things I'm most excited about are the reports that it has a feel very similar to a maple shaft and that it doesn't have the harsh vibration you can sometimes get on an extreme side spin shot.
Please let us know when the cue arrives and you have got to test it out for a while. We need more reviews and yours would make a great read considering you have both shafts to compare :smile:
I think you'll be pleasantly surprised by how well it plays. I have everything you have, plus the case and their glove.
If you don't use a glove already, I'd suggest you get one before your cue arrives. To me, the carbon shafts tend to be a bit more "tacky" than wooden shafts.
I have quite a bit of play on my Prime shaft and not a whole lot on the 5.1 shaft. I use a closed bridge and prefer the taper of the Prime. The 5.1 hits a bit stiffer and should work perfectly fine for people who prefer an open bridge, or for those who use a "loose" closed bridge. The 11.8mm taper at the tip rises fairly quickly to a much larger taper only a few inches from the tip.
I haven't really played around with the weights. The cue is 19 ounces without any weight and you can adjust in 1/4 ounce increments up to 21 ounces. Somehow, I have an extra 1/4 ounce weight and I have been using it in the cue. The 19 1/4 feels good to me, so I haven't really experimented with making it any heavier.
The cue seems "really long" when you put the 10-inch extension on it. It comes in handy when you need some reach and don't like using the bridge. With the bridge, you can easily reach any shot on the table.
Have fun.
I think you'll be pleasantly surprised by how well it plays. I have everything you have, plus the case and their glove.
If you don't use a glove already, I'd suggest you get one before your cue arrives. To me, the carbon shafts tend to be a bit more "tacky" than wooden shafts.
I have quite a bit of play on my Prime shaft and not a whole lot on the 5.1 shaft. I use a closed bridge and prefer the taper of the Prime. The 5.1 hits a bit stiffer and should work perfectly fine for people who prefer an open bridge, or for those who use a "loose" closed bridge. The 11.8mm taper at the tip rises fairly quickly to a much larger taper only a few inches from the tip.
I haven't really played around with the weights. The cue is 19 ounces without any weight and you can adjust in 1/4 ounce increments up to 21 ounces. Somehow, I have an extra 1/4 ounce weight and I have been using it in the cue. The 19 1/4 feels good to me, so I haven't really experimented with making it any heavier.
The cue seems "really long" when you put the 10-inch extension on it. It comes in handy when you need some reach and don't like using the bridge. With the bridge, you can easily reach any shot on the table.
Have fun.
Thanks for the feedback. I forgot to mention that they’re sending one of their gloves as well. My closed bridge can definitely be on the loose side so I’m interested to see which I prefer. I mess around occasionally on snooker and billiards tables so I figure the 5.1 might be good for that and the Prime for pool games.
Are you using the extension full time or just when you need to reach?
I have played around with it for shooting, but haven't committed any real time using it for full-time playing. In order to use it like that, I'd have to change my game up a bit.
The extension is 10" long and weighs 5 ounces. That brings a lot of the weight to the very end of the butt, which brings the balance point a few inches down the cue, towards the butt end.
I use a 58" cue. My normal bridge is around 8-10". With my wingspan and natural stroke, that brings my gripping hand about 3' down from the balance point on my cues. In order to keep that same wingspan/stroke and the feel of the balance point the same with the extension on, I'd have to move my gripping hand further down the butt, which would extend my bridge by several inches.
That would cause me to have to stand a few inches more back from the table or adjust my stance in order to keep the same "angle of view" of the cue ball and object ball that I am used to. I've learned that optics play an important part when it comes to playing pool.
I may play around with it more, as time goes by, but I don't get in enough table time to experiment. When I get the chance to play, I'd rather be having fun than becoming a pool scientist.
Thanks
I want to say Thanks to everyone that has tried or bought the Becue.
I just want to be sure people know the Prime shaft is now available with the Uni-Loc joint. And yes you can get a blank that doesn't have a joint just a plastic plug.
Another item that I will be testing and demoing is a 12.5mm shaft that has the same taper as the Prime.
Also as noted the cue butt and the shaft can be customized in length. The standard length is 29 inches but for a custom charge it is available in 30 or 31. The butt standard length is 29 inches but also for a custom charge available in 30 or 21. I have sold cues in the standard 58 inches, 60, 61 and 62 inches. even with the extra length the base weight is 19 ounces.
Let me know if you have any questions or need help or a quote.
Ricky Bryant
USABecueOfficial@gmail.com
I want to say Thanks to everyone that has tried or bought the Becue.
I just want to be sure people know the Prime shaft is now available with the Uni-Loc joint. And yes you can get a blank that doesn't have a joint just a plastic plug.
Another item that I will be testing and demoing is a 12.5mm shaft that has the same taper as the Prime.
Also as noted the cue butt and the shaft can be customized in length. The standard length is 29 inches but for a custom charge it is available in 30 or 31. The butt standard length is 29 inches but also for a custom charge available in 30 or 21. I have sold cues in the standard 58 inches, 60, 61 and 62 inches. even with the extra length the base weight is 19 ounces.
Let me know if you have any questions or need help or a quote.
Ricky Bryant
USABecueOfficial@gmail.com
The 5.1 is actually 11.8mm and is the smallest that is made.
Ricky Bryant
USABecueOfficial@gmail.com
Well, I received my Becue in record time! I was able to get out and play around with it for a couple hours tonight and I will echo the others that have said it has a great, solid feel without the hollowness of the other low squirt shafts I’ve tried. Surprisingly, I seemed to adjust to the deflection characteristics quite quickly but definitely noticed the more pronounced swerve, especially when elevated, but found it very controllable. I actually made two or three semi-masse shots. I tried a couple full cue jump shots and they didn’t go well but it’s a medium tip instead of my standard hard. All-in-all, I really enjoyed the hit of the cue and it seemed like the long straight shots were immediately more consistent.
I tried both shafts with, and without, the glove and, also surprisingly, I think I am liking the 5.1 more. My initial thoughts are that it’s closer to the 13mm shafts where I’m stroking the cue combined with the fact that my closed bridge is fairly loose and it tightens nicely at the middle/end of the stroke. Without the glove, there was definitely some “squeakiness” but smooth at the same time. I’m curious to see how it will feel if I take my Qwiz to it. With the glove, it was way slicker than anything I’ve played which, I suppose, is to be expected. The only drawback was the Velcro on the wrist portion. It was way too tight on my wrist if I closed it all the way and if I didn’t, the exposed portion rubbed uncomfortably on my wrist. I eventually really loosened it and that was better so I’ll have to continue playing around with things to see what I settle on.
Lastly, I played around with the adjustable weights and the extension. I can say 21oz was too much and I’ll likely settle on either 19.5 or 20oz. The Leonardo system is definitely cool and insanely easy to modify. However, as others have said, once you settle on a weight you’ll likely not change it again. The extension is the first screw in type I’ve used. It is very cool and worked well but the thinness of the pin makes me a little worried that I’ll break it or possibly over-torque it. I’m sure it’s perfectly robust though and it’s cool that it goes into the hex hole used for torquing/removing the bumper to install/swap weights. I look forward to putting in some hours at the table with the cue and sharing more thoughts afterwards.
I tried both shafts with, and without, the glove and, also surprisingly, I think I am liking the 5.1 more. My initial thoughts are that it’s closer to the 13mm shafts where I’m stroking the cue combined with the fact that my closed bridge is fairly loose and it tightens nicely at the middle/end of the stroke. Without the glove, there was definitely some “squeakiness” but smooth at the same time. I’m curious to see how it will feel if I take my Qwiz to it. With the glove, it was way slicker than anything I’ve played which, I suppose, is to be expected. The only drawback was the Velcro on the wrist portion. It was way too tight on my wrist if I closed it all the way and if I didn’t, the exposed portion rubbed uncomfortably on my wrist. I eventually really loosened it and that was better so I’ll have to continue playing around with things to see what I settle on.
Lastly, I played around with the adjustable weights and the extension. I can say 21oz was too much and I’ll likely settle on either 19.5 or 20oz. The Leonardo system is definitely cool and insanely easy to modify. However, as others have said, once you settle on a weight you’ll likely not change it again. The extension is the first screw in type I’ve used. It is very cool and worked well but the thinness of the pin makes me a little worried that I’ll break it or possibly over-torque it. I’m sure it’s perfectly robust though and it’s cool that it goes into the hex hole used for torquing/removing the bumper to install/swap weights. I look forward to putting in some hours at the table with the cue and sharing more thoughts afterwards.
Fasthawk62
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Hi, first post (wow what it took to join here!) anyway. I just got my P3 and revo the other day. Have 2 days playing with it and the stock tip is crap! While waiting for it, I found this Becue cue and this thread. I have a question
HOW can someone dent a carbon butt? There is a reply that some did that in this thread.
And this thread convinced me that I do NOT want a Becue thanks!
HOW can someone dent a carbon butt? There is a reply that some did that in this thread.
And this thread convinced me that I do NOT want a Becue thanks!
If you are sanding/refinishing a carbon shaft, bright shiny will not make it smooth to the feel of the skin. I do not recommend modifying or sanding of any carbon shafts. In my view the carbon shafts actually need more care and attention than wood shafts. So no knocking against the table etc. Keep your hands clean, and keep chalk off the shaft. Wipe down with a lens cloth and keep the shaft clean. They will get sticky from sweaty hands etc. A wipe down will solve this, or use a glove if you have sweaty hands a lot. I invented the taper seat cue tips for carbon cue shafts, so that a tip change could be achieved without taking the cue shaft to an installer. The taper seating cue tips, played indistinguishably from normal glued on cue tips.
If you're talking about the story where someone hit a pole like a baseball bat a wood cue would have shattered and not just dented...lol. If you're talking about finish dings then the finish is also the same. That said, if you regularly use your cue as a weapon, perhaps you need to look into high strength steel, or something like that.
A p3 revo has a wood butt and I'm pretty sure it's going to show more damage when using it as a weapon before the BeCue.
So if your litmus test was which butt will dent first while going into battle, I'd take the all carbon fiber cue, both shaft and butt-BeCue. :grin:
This is why I see the paint application on the BeCue as more of a protection barrier from the light scratches and wear after some serious months/years of play.
Also, we have yet to see a 3,000 hour review on either Revo and BeCue because the technology is so new....but I'm still wondering how the filling material holds up over time with the constant vibrations and changes in temperature/humidity over multiple seasons. Big difference is Revo uses a hardening foam filler material and BeCue uses a rubber compound filling material.
Fasthawk62
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Again, how do you dent carbon???? Carbon wont dent. So the butt is not carbon. As for the shaft, people are complaining the paint is sticky and the shaft is coated in fiberglass?
Last night first night with the Revo, second day playing with it. Hands were sweaty and the shaft played fine! The tip is garbage! And i will replace it this week but so far the Revo is eveything I want. Smooth, dent proof, powerful.
The last reason not to Becue, their video about deflection. They say their shaft is better then wood becasue on a slow hit the cb stays on the deflection line and doesnt start to come back? Again what? That makes no sense and shows these guys know nothing about pool.
I can't help you on how a carbon butt should behave when you try to destroy it but mine certainly looks like carbon fiber. I have no plans to try and destroy it to find out either. I'm glad that you're happy with your Revo and if I could have gotten one in 60", or a 30" shaft for one of the joint pins I have, I probably would have tried that first. I couldn't so I went with Becue and I am very happy with it and would recommend it to anyone wanting to try a carbon cue, especially if the black shaft would bother them.
Mine had no filling material , and did not require it either. On the last series I made, did add some material near the joint end, for the shaft balance point and to get the shaft weight up to match that of the replacement wood shaft so that the cue balance point remains approximately at the same place relative to the cue tip distance. It did take a lot to figure out what was needed so no foam etc was required. So then making the J100 jump cue was no biggie. Allergies have now forced me to stop making and repairing cues at the moment. Cues I made have been out there since 2005 is the earliest. They seem to be holding up real well.
