Let me tell you what I hate...Anyone else?

Bic D

Bic D

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There are 2 or 3 tournaments every week with Monday night being the most interesting. It is a $25 entry fee and we usually have between 18-24 ppl every week.

It is house rules where you call your shot, not necessarily the pocket. ( I wish there was a standard set of rules APA etc..)

If there is going to be a close shot, you're supposed to call a 3rd party to view the shot. If you don't, then the shot goes to the shooter.

I was called over watch a shot where the shooter was cutting his OB clean into a half pocket guarded by his opponents ball. He cut the ball clean but the cue was headed back down table towards the corner pocket. The shooter stuck his hand into the pocket to catch the scratch and I said let it go.

As you can guess, the ball suddenly and mysteriously did not scratch but instead held in the pocket where he had a shot at that end of the table.

The opponent started calling foul (which we don't even have) and said the shooter blocked the pocket. I honestly wasn't in position to see it although it looked like a dead scratch. The shooter said he didn't touch it for which I said "if you wouldn't have put your hand on the table, it wouldn't be a question.

Anyway, that shooter kept shooting and went on to win for which his opponent said he would never come back.

Anyway, IMO there is no reason to stop a rolling CB because something JUST LIKE THIS could happen.

What are some things that y'all absolutely hate in the pool room?
 
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IMO, it is some BS for which I have never played but basically if you call the 7-ball down the rail in the corner pocket and it goes off the cushion into the pocket...you were supposed to call "off 1 cushion"

Obviously you have to call off any other balls and the 8 ball can never be used. I hate it.

It would be so much easier to adopt some standard rules.
 
Players that stick their hand in a pocket when the cue ball is rolling towards it is an automatic foul, regardless of how close the cue ball comes to the pocket before the hand is removed from the pocket.

Players that place the chalk face down on the rail - why in the world would you do that?

Players that chalk their tip while leaning over the table thus the chalk dust falls straight down on the table cloth - they have no clue!

Players that reach for the chalk on the rail to chalk up after missing their shot, before heading to their chair - you won't be needing the chalk while sitting in your chair!

Players that mark up my game on the wire when I win a game, rather than allowing me to mark up my game - you mark up your games and let me mark up mine!

Players that don't bother getting up out of their chair to help retrieve the balls out of the pockets when it's a rack your own break format - thanks for the help!

Players that become statues and stare at the balls in total disbelief after an unexpected miss and don't exit the table for their opponent - it's not the first or last time you'll ever miss a shot so please take a seat!

Players that feel the need to mark up their final game on the wire when winning the match - yeah you won, you don't need to rub it in!

Players that get up out of their chair to inspect to see whether I'm hooked after a shot, when I still have control of the table - you can get up after I miss when it's your shot!

Players that say "good match" to you when shaking your hand, after you've played like crap and handed them the match on a silver platter, without them earning even one single game - just shake my hand and have the courtesy not to say anything!

Players waiting forever to play a match, then as soon as I, as TD, announce their match they head for the restroom before their match starts - why not use the restroom before I announce your match?

I could go on and on, but these are just a few that come to mind. Yeah, I guess I've been running and playing in tournaments for too long!
 
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Yep, in any level tournament, cut and dry, sticking a hand in a pocket is an automatic foul, regardless of how close the cue ball comes to the pocket before the hand is removed from the pocket.

Players that place the chalk face down on the rail - why in the world would you do that?

Players that chalk their tip while leaning over the table - chalk dust falls straight down on the table cloth - they have no clue!

Players that reach for the chalk on the rail to chalk up AFTER missing their shot, on their way to their chair - you won't be needing the chalk while in your chair!

Players that mark up my game on the wire when I win a game, rather than allowing me to mark up my game - you mark up your games and let me mark up mine!

Players that mark up their final game on the wire when winning the match - yeah you won, you don't need to rub it in!

Players that get up out of their chair to inspect to see whether I'm hooked after a shot, when I still have control of the table - you can get up after I miss when it's your shot!

Players that say "good match" to you when shaking your hand, after you've played like crap and handed them the match on a silver platter, without them earning even one single game - just shake my hand and have the class not to say anything!

As a TD, players waiting forever to play a match, then as soon as I announce their match they have to use the restroom before their match starts - why not use it before I announce your match?

I could go on and on, but these are just a few that come to mind.
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You have some valid pet peeves but a few make me wonder whether I would enjoy playing you or not.

Players that mark up their final game. A race to 7 and its 6-6. What's he supposed to do ? Leave it marked as a tie. ?

Players that get out of their chair to see if you are hooked . I am sorry man but if it looks like you are hooked from where I am sitting I am gonna get up and make a determination right then and there as to whether I want an observer to come over and watch. I am not going to wait until its obvious on what's going on when you start to make a masse or kick and them have to stop you so I can get an observer. That's how you get accused of sharking.

Players that say good match when you shot like crap. This is an awkward one but saying nothing is kinda rude in my opinion.
 
ChrisinNC said:
Yep, in any level tournament, cut and dry, sticking a hand in a pocket is an automatic foul, regardless of how close the cue ball comes to the pocket before the hand is removed from the pocket.

Players that place the chalk face down on the rail - why in the world would you do that?

Players that chalk their tip while leaning over the table - chalk dust falls straight down on the table cloth - they have no clue!

Players that reach for the chalk on the rail to chalk up AFTER missing their shot, on their way to their chair - you won't be needing the chalk while in your chair!

Players that mark up my game on the wire when I win a game, rather than allowing me to mark up my game - you mark up your games and let me mark up mine!

Players that mark up their final game on the wire when winning the match - yeah you won, you don't need to rub it in!

Players that get up out of their chair to inspect to see whether I'm hooked after a shot, when I still have control of the table - you can get up after I miss when it's your shot!

Players that say "good match" to you when shaking your hand, after you've played like crap and handed them the match on a silver platter, without them earning even one single game - just shake my hand and have the class not to say anything!

As a TD, players waiting forever to play a match, then as soon as I announce their match they have to use the restroom before their match starts - why not use it before I announce your match?

I could go on and on, but these are just a few that come to mind.
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:eek::eek:

That's quite a list.
 
lorider said:
You have some valid pet peeves but a few make me wonder whether I would enjoy playing you or not.

Players that mark up their final game. A race to 7 and its 6-6. What's he supposed to do ? Leave it marked as a tie. ?

Players that get out of their chair to see if you are hooked . I am sorry man but if it looks like you are hooked from where I am sitting I am gonna get up and make a determination right then and there as to whether I want an observer to come over and watch. I am not going to wait until its obvious on what's going on when you start to make a masse or kick and them have to stop you so I can get an observer. That's how you get accused of sharking.

Players that say good match when you shot like crap. This is an awkward one but saying nothing is kinda rude in my opinion.
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What is your reason for feeling a need to mark up your final game when you win the set, and if you do, just curious if you do it before or after shaking your opponent's hand? The match is over and generally the winner is the one who goes to report the result to the TD so he can keep the brackets going. It's not like the TD is going to look over to the wire to check and confirm the score.

As for getting out of your chair to check out your opponent's shot, I'm not referring to any situation where it could be a close hit and may need someone to judge a shot.

Personally, I don't feel like saying nothing to your opponent when shaking their hand, after they've gift wrapped you the match is rude. Just the opposite, I think is is respectful. There really is nothing you can say in that situation that's going to make the loser feel any better, so why try?
 
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besides obvious things we all cant stand.....

LOUD MUSIC so i have to holler just to communicate is by far and away my biggest pet peeve
 
I hate the higher level players that go in to whiny little ***** mode, as soon as they realize, I might actually beat them. They talk, shark, cheat, etc. Was that a foul? These guys are super lame.
 
ChrisinNC said:
What is your reason for feeling a need to mark up your final game when you win the set, and if you do, just curious if you do it before or after shaking your opponent's hand? The match is over and generally the winner is the one who goes to report the result to the TD so he can keep the brackets going. It's not like the TD is going to look over to the wire to check and confirm the score.

As for getting out of your chair to check out your opponent's shot, I'm not referring to any situation where it could be a close hit and may need someone to judge a shot.

Personally, I don't feel like saying nothing to your opponent when shaking their hand, after they've gift wrapped you the match is rude. Just the opposite, I think is is respectful. There really is nothing you can say in that situation that's going to make the loser feel any better, so why try?
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I am sorry man but you seem to take every action tour opponent does in a negative way and just worry too much about what they are doing. As easy e said....thats quite a list you posted and you said you could go on and on.

The guy moving his last bead ? I got more important things on my mind...like why did I lose ?

The getting out of your chair thing. You mentioned in your op about them getting up to see if you are hooked. How else are they going to tell if its obvious or not ? When I am at the table shooting ...the last thing on my mind is what my opponent is doing. I damn sure aint going to be looking over in his direction after every shot.

Like I said earlier. Its awkward whether or not to say anything in the situation you described. Its kind of damn if you do or damn if you don't. Some would feel like if you did not say anything its like you are dismissing tour opponent. Personally I always try to say something positive in such situations like complimenting them on a certain shot . I guess its tour prerogative to take my compliment in a negative way.
 
My absolute worst is sitting waiting forever to play,the match is called,and opponent instantly needs to smoke for 10 minutes like a little baby needing their binky.
 
lorider said:
I am sorry man but you seem to take every action tour opponent does in a negative way and just worry too much about what they are doing. As easy e said....thats quite a list you posted and you said you could go on and on.

The guy moving his last bead ? I got more important things on my mind...like why did I lose ?

The getting out of your chair thing. You mentioned in your op about them getting up to see if you are hooked. How else are they going to tell if its obvious or not ? When I am at the table shooting ...the last thing on my mind is what my opponent is doing. I damn sure aint going to be looking over in his direction after every shot.

Like I said earlier. Its awkward whether or not to say anything in the situation you described. Its kind of damn if you do or damn if you don't. Some would feel like if you did not say anything its like you are dismissing tour opponent. Personally I always try to say something positive in such situations like complimenting them on a certain shot . I guess its tour prerogative to take my compliment in a negative way.
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Making genuine eye contact while shaking your opponent's hand is the best way, in my opinion, to show respect to your opponent at the end of a match, regardless of who has won and lost. There are some matches that end so badly for one of the two players that I think it's best not to feel a need to say something in an attempt to try to make them feel better, just because you may feel uncomfortable with saying nothing at all.

I always try to set an example to any opponent I"m playing as to what proper tournament player etiquette is, but as for my reaction when playing an opponent who displays poor etiquette and how it affects me during the match - No I never make any mention of it to them when they do it. I attempt to use it to my advantage as added incentive to bear down and make darn sure I don't lose a match to someone that shows such a lack of courtesy. It doesn't always work out, but I like to think I do my best to maintain my composure even when I suffer a heartbreaking loss.

Treating my opponent, regardless of their skill level, with courtesy and respect at all times from the beginning of the match to the congratulatory handshake at the conclusion of the match, in the long run, is far more important to me than winning or losing the match.
 
Bic D said:
IMO, it is some BS for which I have never played but basically if you call the 7-ball down the rail in the corner pocket and it goes off the cushion into the pocket...you were supposed to call "off 1 cushion"

Obviously you have to call off any other balls and the 8 ball can never be used. I hate it.

It would be so much easier to adopt some standard rules.
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Hate might be strong a word for what I feel about bar rules....
....but I definitely have no respect for them.

Eight ball is the game I’ve played the least....because of insane rules.
 
ChrisinNC said:
Making genuine eye contact while shaking your opponent's hand is the best way, in my opinion, to show respect to your opponent at the end of a match, regardless of who has won and lost. There are some matches that end so badly for one of the two players that I think it's best not to feel a need to say something in an attempt to try to make them feel better, just because you may feel uncomfortable with saying nothing at all.

I always try to set an example to any opponent I"m playing as to what proper tournament player etiquette is, but as for my reaction when playing an opponent who displays poor etiquette and how it affects me during the match - No I never make any mention of it to them when they do it. I attempt to use it to my advantage as added incentive to bear down and make darn sure I don't lose a match to someone that shows such a lack of courtesy. It doesn't always work out, but I like to think I do my best to maintain my composure even when I suffer a heartbreaking loss.

Treating my opponent, regardless of their skill level, with courtesy and respect at all times from the beginning of the match to the congratulatory handshake at the conclusion of the match, in the long run, is far more important to me than winning or losing the match.
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I completely agree with this post.

My biggest pet peeve is some one not calling fouls on themselves or denying when the obviously fouled. I will give any one the benefit of the doubt once but I keep a mental note of guys who I feel are prone to not calling fouls and will call for an observer every time it looks remotely close.

I have run into a few people who rely on that ...call foes to the shooter a lil too much if you know what I mean. My lo has gotten kinda flustered with me a few times for calling him to observe quite a few shots in playoffs or higher. Regular session does not matter too much and when I see them fouling and denying it comes back to haunt them in playoffs or higher. I have seen it obviously bother opponents when I call for an observer and I could care less. If the did nor have the reputation they did I would not call for am observer so much.
 
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Players who vape.

Big headphones.

I'll mark up my game, you mark up yours.

I'll get up to check if it's froze or not, same if you get a rail or not.

Trying to 'sleep' a ball you owe in One Pocket.

Chalk?... never face down, please. And don't walk away with one when it's not your inning.
 
lorider said:
I completely agree with this post.

My biggest pet peeve is some one not calling fouls on themselves or denying when the obviously fouled. I will give any one the benefit of the doubt once but I keep a mental note of guys who I feel are prone to not calling fouls and will call for an observer every time it looks remotely close.

I have run into a few people who rely on that ...call foes to the shooter a lil too much if you know what I mean. My lo has gotten kinda flustered with me a few times for calling him to observe quite a few shots in playoffs or higher. Regular session does not matter too much and when I see them fouling and denying it comes back to haunt them in playoffs or higher. I have seen it obviously bother opponents when I call for an observer and I could care less. If the did nor have the reputation they did I would not call for am observer so much.
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We can certainly agree on the importance of showing respect and courtesy to your opponent at all times, including being honest enough to call a foul on yourself before your opponent has to call it, or calling it on yourself even if they don't see it, which is sometimes the case. - thanks
 
Bic D said:
IMO, it is some BS for which I have never played but basically if you call the 7-ball down the rail in the corner pocket and it goes off the cushion into the pocket...you were supposed to call "off 1 cushion"

Obviously you have to call off any other balls and the 8 ball can never be used. I hate it.

It would be so much easier to adopt some standard rules.
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How on earth do they get 20ish people to pay $25 to play with such a crap rule? Players that are good hate strict call shot rules that is for bar bangers, and I don't know any bar bangers that would pay $25 for a tournament. People in my two main pool halls don't even pay $10 to $15 to play all night if it means they need to enter a tournament. They can go 2 and out, and pay 1/2 to 1/3rd the money they would pay for table time.

Touching a rail on a shot is silly, what if it goes off the cushion facing, is that a "rail"? What if it rattles the pocket then drops, who is counting how many times it rattled? What if there is table roll and the ball rolls into the cushion more than once? Takes a special type of dope to make up those rules. They just add to more arguments over the rules. I think someone on here said in a thread when they play with "call every touch of the ball" rules they just hit the ball hard and ask their opponent "so how many rails did I touch"?
 
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