Going from Simonis 860 and Aramith Premium to a Slower Table....

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I play on a 9' Table, with Simonis 860, and Aramith Premium balls; for 30 minutes to an hour plus, every day. Occasionally, for several hours per day.

After a long stretch of that, I go play on an 8' table, with slower cloth, and different balls; and it was all I could do to break even.

I walked away while I was even; realizing, that I was out of my element. Really good long time friend's new table; but not what I was used to playing on, and I couldn't adjust to the speed. I was a little bit lost on it, scratching my head a little.

Don't knock Mosconi. His accomplishments were legendary; on THAT equipment.
 
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yes on slow cloth and unpolished balls you have to have a much more powerful stroke. and more important, one that can stay straight when hitting very hard.

modern pool is much easier than in the past for sure.
 
I've never had my own pool table until very recently, so I can't tell; but, it's Simonis 860 and Aramith Premier balls, both about 5 years old of only light home use. Is this considered a "fast" setup?

Thanks,

jv
 
jviss said:
I've never had my own pool table until very recently, so I can't tell; but, it's Simonis 860 and Aramith Premier balls, both about 5 years old of only light home use. Is this considered a "fast" setup?

Thanks,

jv
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Yes. You will have a lot of rollout with Simonis 860, and Aramith balls.
 
I like slower table where you have to "pound" them to go multiple rails.

I don't like playing to tables where you have to "bunt" the balls.

I like letting the dogs out.

There is a fast table next to the table I usually play on. People play on that table and run a few balls and think they are doing something special. When they come over to the table I'm on, their running abilities slow way down.

They don't have the stroke to "man handle" the table.
 
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I miss the older set-ups.

I played as much as anyone did and I dont remember it being that hard to move the ball. Maybe I had a better stroke back then and didn't know it.

Anyways, I ran 156 and out in 14.1 on the "old cloth", "dirty balls" and was using a house cue with a lepro tip (I did all the tip work at that room) and all with cash on the line.

Today, on this "supposedly easy" equipment....lol.....I cant run 156 and nothing....much less "out".

Most I've run on this new "easy" stuff is 86.

All of my (three or four) 100+ runs were done on a 4×8 Brunswick with old cloth.

I just cant get there on my 9' pro-am.

Go figure?
 
I forgot to add:

Since this new equipment is so easy, I wish some of you guys would post some of your monster runs to entertain us pool geeks.

Not joking, I hear this crapp all the time. It gets old.

Having said that....lol.....my brother has such a table at his house. When I play there, I cant run more than I do at my house.

Maybe I've lost it? Yep, I believe that's it!
 
I think pocket size makes a lot more of a difference for me than cloth. I can get used to the speed of a table in a couple hours, but I can only shoot so straight. There's a guy near me that has a 10 footer with some cheap looking felt cloth but it's got 5 1/2 inch pockets. Even with the slow ass cloth on that big ass table I run out better on it than on the pro cut diamonds at the pool hall.

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HawaiianEye said:
I like slower table where you have to "pound" them to go multiple rails.

I don't like playing to tables where you have to "bunt" the balls.

I like letting the dogs out.

There is a fast table next to the table I usually play on. People play on that table and run a few balls and think they are doing something special. When they come over to the table I'm on, their running abilities slow way down.

They don't have the stroke to "man handle" the table.
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I like a slower table also. My old home bar had slow red felt, poles in the way, walls in the way, people in the way - I hated playing there - but man, I shot good on those tables.
 
"I". "also play" better "on" tables that "perm"it"me" to let my stroke" o"ut.

I also"" "noticed" the ba"lls do not "roll "off when they """"""don't touch the c"loth" en rout"e to the" pocket."
HawaiianEye said:
I like slower table where you have to "pound" them to go multiple rails.

I don't like playing to tables where you have to "bunt" the balls.

I like letting the dogs out.

There is a fast table next to the table I usually play on. People play on that table and run a few balls and think they are doing something special. When they come over to the table I'm on, their running abilities slow way down.

They don't have the stroke to "man handle" the table.
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I feel like slower tables are easier to play on in general, at least for my natural stroke. I can and do play well on fast tables, even the little ones, but I feel like slower cloth gives me an advantage.

Lol BB, but how do you “feel” about it all is what I wanna know?
 
Fast cloth allows those with weak strokes to do a lot that is beyond their true ability.

Slower cloth takes more skill and stroke.

But that said, it still is a reflection of how good or bad you are either way.

I try to do most of my practice on the same table with the same balls. My theory is if everything is consistent then I can just work it out (can't blame it on the equipment as so many do, me included). Then I just adjust to whatever playing conditions I'm on...
 
didnt some guy just break the world record and run many big numbers before he did. do you think he could do that on old wool cloth and dirty non elastic balls. and playing on a different table every time he tried.
maybe, maybe not.
 
maha said:
didnt some guy just break the world record and run many big numbers before he did. do you think he could do that on old wool cloth and dirty non elastic balls. and playing on a different table every time he tried.
maybe, maybe not.
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We dont know, go ask him and come back and tell us. Then, we'll all know the answer.
 
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