mushy diamond rails

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evergruven

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played on a new (to me) diamond table recently
it looked to be in good repair, nice felt and all
the rails were "mushy" tho, not firm like other diamonds I've played on
the mushiness was consistent tho, all the rails were this way
just wondering why this might have been?
 
evergruven said:
played on a new (to me) diamond table recently
it looked to be in good repair, nice felt and all
the rails were "mushy" tho, not firm like other diamonds I've played on
the mushiness was consistent tho, all the rails were this way
just wondering why this might have been?
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Never seen this on a Diamond. Probably replaced with cheap-a^* cushions.
 
evergruven said:
played on a new (to me) diamond table recently
it looked to be in good repair, nice felt and all
the rails were "mushy" tho, not firm like other diamonds I've played on
the mushiness was consistent tho, all the rails were this way
just wondering why this might have been?
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Can you explain "mushy" any more?
What kind of cloth was on the table?
 
by "mushy," I mean the rails caught more of the ball
I don't know what the technical term is..rebound depth?
if they were old etc., could the rails uniformly lose their spring?
rails could have been loose
but I'm not sure because it really felt like all the rails hit similarly
felt like the cushion quality was just different
was a red label..cloth was green but not super-nappy, clean
maybe they replaced the cloth, and the rails with? for some reason
I wondered about the rail angle/height, too
it really was a different table to play on
 
evergruven said:
by "mushy," I mean the rails caught more of the ball
I don't know what the technical term is..rebound depth?
if they were old etc., could the rails uniformly lose their spring?
rails could have been loose
but I'm not sure because it really felt like all the rails hit similarly
felt like the cushion quality was just different
was a red label..cloth was green but not super-nappy, clean
maybe they replaced the cloth, and the rails with? for some reason
I wondered about the rail angle/height, too
it really was a different table to play on
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Once tables start having hacks work on them, there's no telling what could have been changed, why, or how. But once that happens, they're no longer Diamonds, they become the typical pool table in a commercial environment. I won't even begin to try giving all the reasons pool tables change because just when I think I've seen it all, I'll run into something new again which just reminds me there's even more stupid mechanic in the market place than I thought there was.
 
evergruven said:
by "mushy," I mean the rails caught more of the ball
I don't know what the technical term is..rebound depth?
if they were old etc., could the rails uniformly lose their spring?
rails could have been loose
but I'm not sure because it really felt like all the rails hit similarly
felt like the cushion quality was just different
was a red label..cloth was green but not super-nappy, clean
maybe they replaced the cloth, and the rails with? for some reason
I wondered about the rail angle/height, too
it really was a different table to play on
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Loose rails can play like that. Red-label cushion nose height has been covered a lot on here. They fixed that when the blues came out in '10.
 
garczar said:
I know red-labels banked short but i've neve played on one that was soft/mushy. What do you mean by "wavy" rails?
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Don't really know if there is a actual term, but if you run your hand along the nose of the cushion lengthwise, your fingers will dip in and out several times. Hard to see, can absolutely feel.

As said, it may be the work of a hack as I have also played on several older black (brown) label 9'ers and everything was as it should be.
 
jimmyco said:
Don't really know if there is a actual term, but if you run your hand along the nose of the cushion lengthwise, your fingers will dip in and out several times. Hard to see, can absolutely feel.

As said, it may be the work of a hack as I have also played on several older black (brown) label 9'ers and everything was as it should be.
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It's called dimpling' the nose of the cushions, caused by stretching the cloth to tight when stapling it on the bottom of the rail. Very amateur work and mistake.
 
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