Help identifying cue

[poolguppy]

I've been playing with this cue for years now and finally came across a similar looking one that may help narrow down its origins. It looks similar to a model 20 Brunswick collendar balke cue, but obviously a modern conversion with some type of bone joint and butt. Any one know of a builder known for using centennial balls as butts? Pretty unique feature. Not wanting to sell just getting more curious about its build, thanks

 

[cue fix]

add pictures showing the joint area whie it is apart. May help determine who worked on it

 

[poolguppy]

These work?

 

[hang-the-9]

First time I have seen a cue posted here with that buttcap design, but whoever built it knew what they were doing. That is one of the nicest looking shaft woods I have ever seen.

 

[poolguppy]

I've always thought looked pretty nice, has two identical shafts, both around 11.4mm, nice long taper great playing cue, maybe a little on the light side though. Has a center joint extension for playing on bigger tables too.

 

[Kickin' Chicken]

First time I have seen a cue posted here with that buttcap design, but whoever built it knew what they were doing. That is one of the nicest looking shaft woods I have ever seen.

looks like someone uses a 1 ball for the bumper.

not undeard of for cuemakers to use material from cueballs for rings/joints, etc. Ernie at Gina was one of them. :smile:

Who knows id that "1" bumper is orig or added after.

The shaft collar doesn't match the butt joint collar so that doesn't appear to be orig.

I agree that the shaft wood with the curl looks nice.

best,
brian kc

 

[ideologist]

I bet that cue is super skinny and homemade, pretty neat

 

[Duane Remick]

I bet that cue is super skinny and homemade, pretty neat

" Looks like a nice Curly Maple shaft....
I also think just a basic home made conversion-
Never seen anything close from any of the cuemakers

 

[poolguppy]

I have been thinking it's a conversion from one of these collendar balke cues. It's slightly skinnier than most cues maybe but still right about there. The joint is 21.2mm and butt is 31.5. Just a fuzz under most my other cues

 

[poolguppy]

Just another look at the shafts, I use the one on the left almost exclusively and clean it often. Right one could use a little better cleaning up, cant see the wood pattern as well.

 

[Jimmorrison]

If that cue was done at home, by someone not a cue maker, I’d like to see what else he’s done. Gotta be some hellacious birdhouses in his backyard

 

[poolguppy]

If that cue was done at home, by someone not a cue maker, I’d like to see what else he’s done. Gotta be some hellacious birdhouses in his backyard

Heres an actual picture of a bird house in his back yard, Jim

 

[mikemosconi]

If you are wondering if that cue was originally a Brunswick cue that was converted, I believe that the buttcap would be a possible clue- as the Brunswick Centennial balls had those arrows, so perhaps the cue maker / cue converter chose a Brunswick billiard ball as a tribute to the cue's origin- just a thought.

 

[hang-the-9]

looks like someone uses a 1 ball for the bumper.

not undeard of for cuemakers to use material from cueballs for rings/joints, etc. Ernie at Gina was one of them. :smile:

Who knows id that "1" bumper is orig or added after.

The shaft collar doesn't match the butt joint collar so that doesn't appear to be orig.

I agree that the shaft wood with the curl looks nice.

best,
brian kc

I've never seen a cueball like that used in a bumperless design like that, have to say it looks nice. And the horn rings and buttcap. For me the two best things about the cue are the two opposite ends, the shafts and the buttcap. I doubt I could even shoot with it, I'd be starring at the shafts thinking how nice the looked instead of aiming LOL

 

[Jimmorrison]

Heres an actual picture of a bird house in his back yard, Jim

Just imagine, you’re only a bird, but you get to live in the Taj Mahal!

 

[Geosnooker]

Birdhouse makes me chuckle. My wife and I are big bird watchers. Neighbour is an excellent hobby wood craftsman and made an elaborate birdhouse. It was designed for Purple martins which are communal nesters. We didn’t have the heart to tell him that there aren’t any Purple martins in our part of Canada that nest in multiple dwellings like his house. We have many species that nest in boxes but all are quite territorial and won’t tolerate another bird within a few metres minimum.

We have a dozen modestly made bird houses on our property and most are busy throughout the breeding season...chickadees, woodpeckers, boreal owl, nuthatches, etc. His ‘mansion’ remains empty and for rent.

Back to the cue. A masterpiece. I wondered it was made by someone who played both Snooker and pool. That would be my thought if from here in Canada where both sports were popular and hybrid cues common.

 

[Black-Balled]

Curly maple shafts too... a bit away from the norm.

 

[poolguppy]

Back to the cue. A masterpiece. I wondered it was made by someone who played both Snooker and pool. That would be my thought if from here in Canada where both sports were popular and hybrid cues common.

You may be right. The joint extension is about 7 inches long and the shafts are on the thinner side. I assumed it was for playing on larger tables but snooker is a real possibility. I've played on a 9ft table with it and it helps a lot

 

[PhilosopherKing]

Looks like something Guido Orlandi could have made.

 

[hang-the-9]

You may be right. The joint extension is about 7 inches long and the shafts are on the thinner side. I assumed it was for playing on larger tables but snooker is a real possibility. I've played on a 9ft table with it and it helps a lot

Longer cues are not really made to be used on larger tables, the snooker cues are no longer than, and in fact are now usually shorter, than cues used for pool. Long cues do have an advantage for reach and taller players but I don't think cue makers make their cues based on the table size they will be used on.

The shafts do not look like they were made for snooker, they could have just been made thinner for player preference, a lot of people like shafts under 13mm, they also could have gotten thinner over time depending on how old the cue is. Snooker cues have much smaller tips and generally use a conical taper and short ferrules.