Banking The CTE Way On A Diamond Table

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SpiderWebComm said:
True. All I'm saying is like all games there's an offense and defense.
It's just a different offense and defense as far as when you use it which you alluded to with 1 pocket as opposed to fast pace do or die rotation games.
Fargo rate isn't kept for 1 pocket.
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So what have you won lately?

I'm not talking about playing a friend, even someone as skilled as AH. What events have you even entered?

Lou Figueroa
 
lfigueroa said:
So what have you won lately?

I'm not talking about playing a friend, even someone as skilled as AH. What events have you even entered?

Lou Figueroa
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This last year is the least I've played ever. I'm the younger man you once were and have to take advantage of it professionally and monetarily while I have the chance.

Hopefully it doesn't turn into your 10 year hiatus from it all. Gotta do what you gotta do.

Nobody is playing with this coronavirus problem and might not be for a long time.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
LMAO! What a joke. It was an experienced player using ENGLISH
to get position as good as he could to set himself up for the next bank shot...and the next bank...and the next bank...and the next bank...and the next bank...and the next bank...and the next bank...and the next bank...and the next bank...and the next bank...and the next bank. (I think that's 11 after his first one)

Something you have never come close to experiencing in your entire life and never will. LOL
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You and cookie seem to think that Stan is relying solely on CTE to make those bank shots. The rest of planet earth is skeptical of that claim. We have three guys standing before us. Stan, who was a bank pool expert before he could even spell CTE, Spider, who is an advanced amateur player who probably hasn't played a lot of banks but knows CTE inside and out, and cookie, same as Spider -- a good player who is expert at CTE.

Now, as an advertisement for CTE I want to demonstrate how powerful it is. What is more convincing? Should I pick the guy who was banking for 50 years before CTE or should I pick the CTE expert who rarely banks?

***Analogy alert***
Let's say you sell a new garden hose on an infomercial and I want to demonstrate how easy it is to roll it up. Should I find a little housewife to roll it up with ease, or should I find the Hulk and let him do it?

This is the exact same stupid argument that was made years ago. Someone used CTE, supposedly, to bank balls. I tried it for fun and made a video. Not sure what happened on ball #4 but it doesn't look like a skid. Maybe just a miss. The point is that I NEVER practice banks and rarely attempt them in a game. I make a surprising percentage of them, for me.

Did Stan use CTE to pocket those balls? Maybe. Is it a convincing presentation in support of CTE? Not even a little bit.

Here's my demonstration from years ago. Full disclosure (would be nice if Stan did that): I made 4 of 5 the FIRST time I tried it, but took another 3 or 4 tries on camera to get this video. If I can do this by feel imagine what someone who knows how to bank can do!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VevvGAxOqNM
 
Dan White said:
You and cookie seem to think that Stan is relying solely on CTE to make those bank shots. The rest of planet earth is skeptical of that claim. We have three guys standing before us. Stan, who was a bank pool expert before he could even spell CTE, Spider, who is an advanced amateur player who probably hasn't played a lot of banks but knows CTE inside and out, and cookie, same as Spider -- a good player who is expert at CTE.
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Here's what we know that you don't know. First of all, Cookie and I BOTH spent a WEEK with Stan at his place in Kentucky. That means right there in person on the table from early morning to evening every day.

He taught and demonstrated every single thing he knows and uses which is 100% CTE. It was for all phases of the game including BANKS.

He taught where to aim and how to aim with CTE. He did it over and over explaining and doing...and we did it over and over by explaining to him what he taught and then doing. This was for BANKS and everything else.

So don't come roaring in here with your wild imagination and big mouth as you always do like you have some sort of crystal ball or Tarot cards telling you Stan does what he always did pre CTE. He DOES NOT.

He uses it 100% of the time for aiming to make balls and banking.

When the Truth Series is posted for everyone to see on YouTube, you'll know and see it for yourself.

As far as what you keep claiming I hope you continue because the more you run your mouth the bigger FOOL you make of yourself and it will really come out in the end.

C'mon Dan, crank it up some more. I love it because I'll be copy and pasting the idiocy to jam it so far up (you know where) when the time comes it's going to be a total blast.
 
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SpiderWebComm said:
... Cookie and I BOTH spent a WEEK with Stan at his place in Kentucky. That means right there in person on the table from early morning to evening every day.

He taught and demonstrated every single thing he knows and uses which is 100% CTE. It was for all phases of the game including BANKS.
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You should do a video like Stan did.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
Here's what we know that you don't know. First of all, Cookie and I BOTH spent a WEEK with Stan at his place in Kentucky. That means right there in person on the table from early morning to evening every day.

He taught and demonstrated every single thing he knows and uses which is 100% CTE. It was for all phases of the game including BANKS.

He taught where to aim and how to aim with CTE. He did it over and over explaining and doing...and we did it over and over by explaining to him what he taught and then doing. This was for BANKS and everything else.
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It dawned on me that you truly don't understand how idiotic it is for you to make these claims yet refuse to demonstrate it yourself. If it works you should be able to do it.

Where's the video?
 
SpiderWebComm said:
Do you honestly feel that you play as good now as you did when you were younger? If you say YES, you would be lying! NOBODY does. Not Efren, not Sigel, not Varner, not Buddy Hall...NOBODY at a certain age.

Stan is NOT a young person with young eyes, or young anything. He's older than you are. What he did and is doing now at his age is INCREDIBLE! Screw what he did when he was young because he no longer is.

His game and skill level now is a direct by product of learning, refining, and using CTE whether you like it or not. It has rejuvenated and extended his pool playing years to a level that few men have at his age or younger.
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Lou -- Spider is lost in the discussion, as usual. I wouldn't normally pick on such a person but he is so angry and dismissive of other people that I make an exception for him.

Of course what he is missing is that we are not professional players. We never reached our potential because we had a job and played pool recreationally. As we get older, some of us make the time to practice and learn things we didn't have the time to do when we were youngin's. So I could easily be a much better player at, say, 60 than at 30.

Pro's, on the other hand, played as a profession and peaked in their ability in their 20's or 30's. The only place to go from there is down. Michael Phelps will never swim as fast as he did in the last olympics, but I could swim faster now than at 20 if I started doing laps for a month.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
This last year is the least I've played ever. I'm the younger man you once were and have to take advantage of it professionally and monetarily while I have the chance.

Hopefully it doesn't turn into your 10 year hiatus from it all. Gotta do what you gotta do.

Nobody is playing with this coronavirus problem and might not be for a long time.
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Well, I can certainly understand that.

But now you've got me curious: what about all else before? You referenced a title I won 40 years ago and asked what I had won lately. I gave you a straight answer -- what have you won, ever?

Lou Figueroa
 
Dan White said:
It dawned on me that you truly don't understand how idiotic it is for you to make these claims yet refuse to demonstrate it yourself. If it works you should be able to do it.

Where's the video?
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Spider, Dan, regardless of your animosity towards him, is correct.

You certainly cannot request video from others without providing your own.

Lou Figueroa
 
Dan White said:
Lou -- Spider is lost in the discussion, as usual. I wouldn't normally pick on such a person but he is so angry and dismissive of other people that I make an exception for him.

Of course what he is missing is that we are not professional players. We never reached our potential because we had a job and played pool recreationally. As we get older, some of us make the time to practice and learn things we didn't have the time to do when we were youngin's. So I could easily be a much better player at, say, 60 than at 30.

Pro's, on the other hand, played as a profession and peaked in their ability in their 20's or 30's. The only place to go from there is down. Michael Phelps will never swim as fast as he did in the last olympics, but I could swim faster now than at 20 if I started doing laps for a month.
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Hi, Dan.

Yes, that was my point. If you're willing to approach the game, as I think you and a few others here do, the path takes you further up the mountain, with hopefully just a few detours. Accusing me of lying, for not copping to his assertion that as an older player I am a weaker player, is outlandish.

What is funny to me are his assertions now that he's going to copy and paste for the future, when there is an abundance of his own mis-fires (and Cookie's) to reference. The difference is that some of us realize that that's not a fruitful path to take if your interest is to move the discussion forward.

Lou Figueroa
 
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Dan White said:
You and cookie seem to think that Stan is relying solely on CTE to make those bank shots. The rest of planet earth is skeptical of that claim. We have three guys standing before us. Stan, who was a bank pool expert before he could even spell CTE, Spider, who is an advanced amateur player who probably hasn't played a lot of banks but knows CTE inside and out, and cookie, same as Spider -- a good player who is expert at CTE.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VevvGAxOqNM
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Bob Nunley banking with CTE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmqVKbHfRT4


Mohrt banking with CTE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwdyDAisc6o


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMhCKSU22Uc


Gerry Williams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8dQGTj5YjY
 
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Dan White said:
It dawned on me that you truly don't understand how idiotic it is for you to make these claims yet refuse to demonstrate it yourself. If it works you should be able to do it.

Where's the video?
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My videos, Neil's videos, Gerry Williams videos and others posted a good number of videos from 2010 - 2016 or so.

They didn't do a damn bit of good because you and others in the clan either came up with every crappy erroneous dissection that you could think of or dismissed what was done entirely because you couldn't reconcile the fact balls went in.

The demonstrations are already on video and they're done by Stan himself. If you don't like what you see now, tough sh*t! You aren't going to like the truth series videos and the book.

But we already know that and could care less. The CTE train left the terminal a long time ago and is spreading throughout the pro level, better amateurs, and players at all levels. There's not a damn thing you can do to stop it.

The only part that is a known fact that you and the other four keep proving is you are
ALL CTE OWNED and it has taken over every cell in your pea sized brains!!!

Keep you crap coming because it proves it each and every time.

ROTFLMAO!
 
Dan White said:
Lou -- Spider is lost in the discussion, as usual. I wouldn't normally pick on such a person but he is so angry and dismissive of other people that I make an exception for him.

You can't wait for one of my posts. As a true masochist you enjoy your real pleasure from getting thrashed and debased. It's a turn on for you.

Of course what he is missing is that we are not professional players. We never reached our potential because we had a job and played pool recreationally. As we get older, some of us make the time to practice and learn things we didn't have the time to do when we were youngin's. So I could easily be a much better player at, say, 60 than at 30.

But somehow as non-professional players who play recreationally, you and the gang in your own minds have all the answers as to how to play the game and how it should be played when you go through forums as Monday morning quarterbacks blasting pro instructors who have won pro tournaments against a strong field and know far more than you when it comes to the true knowledge.

People like you more than likely tell your doctors what the diagnosis is for your physical problems and what medications to give. It's pretty much what you do here except you PLAY the doctor and tell them what their problems are and whether the prescription will help or not.

Pro's, on the other hand, played as a profession and peaked in their ability in their 20's or 30's. The only place to go from there is down. Michael Phelps will never swim as fast as he did in the last olympics, but I could swim faster now than at 20 if I started doing laps for a month.
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But you could never come close to what Michael Phelps did, not even close in any style of swimming. Yet here you are with your big mouth screaming daily like you know everything there is to know about pool that's good and bad more than an instructor who has won a couple of pro tournaments and being certified for years at the highest level as an instructor while having his own full time career in the real world as a professional teacher in the public education system.

Still trying to be King on the Mountain somewhere as that scrawny kid who always got tossed off by the bigger and stronger. But you found your niche and mountain. All you need is a mouth and fingers to type.
 
VIDEOS. This is what I mean about videos meaning ZERO to the NAYSAYING HATER group that's been around for two decades.

This is in ONE SINGLE POST back in 2013 - 7 DAMN YEARS AGO with videos that had been produced by various CTE users. I/WE stopped jumping through hoops to produce our own videos when they were ignored or stated that CTE wasn't used but it had to be something like GB, contact points, fractions, etc.

As far as I go, I got SICK of it and removed the videos. I haven't checked these out but many on this list may also have been removed. WHY? It did NO GOOD. You want videos? Do them yourself and show US what you know and how you can use CTE. You WON'T because you CAN'T! All you can do is trash.

02-21-2013, 07:18 PM

Video List:

CTE:

Gerry Williams - 9 Ball Ghost with Pro One/CTE call outs on each shot - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=407YAtWRVH0&feature=youtu.be

Gerry Williams - 9 Ball Ghost using ProOne/CTE - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap5MlEVTamE

Gerry Williams - 40 Ball Run using CTE Aiming - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5HaOfEeSHs

Stan Shuffett - Running racks calling out the aiming point and visual sweep - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48vrXDrjntk

Stan Shuffett - Nine Ball Banks with call outs - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7-lt-RV-nE

Stan Shuffett - 28 Ball run with call outs - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMwOl6DKf-E&feature=youtu.be

DTL - 122 Ball Run Calling out CTE Visuals. - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE673R079oc&feature=youtu.be

Mohrt - Cross Corner Banks using Manual CTE - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwdyDAisc6o

Mohrt - Banks with CTE - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMhCKSU22Uc

Bob Nunley - CTE Visual Sweep Footwork - OUTSTANDING INFORMATION - http://youtu.be/f-SrlXYYzuI

Great performances using CTE: (because we know for certain that these players are using CTE. Of course there are thousands of great performances where the players are NOT using CTE and for whom we literally don't know what if any method of aiming they are using)

Landon Shuffett vs. Earl Strickland ProOne used in the pro ranks - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HYQjoHjwL4

Stan Shuffett - 70 Ball Run.

DTL - 122 Ball Run Calling out CTE Visuals. - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE673R079oc&feature=youtu.be
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Among other things Ekkes I think has one here where he runs a 7 pack.
 
BeiberLvr said:
It's threads like these that make me remember why I stopped being a defender of CTE.
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Wouldn't a better idea be to not even go into these type of threads? Stay in the Main forum or NPR.

Nobody is forcing you to go to church if you don't believe in God either. Stay out of churches.
 
lfigueroa said:
Well, I can certainly understand that.

But now you've got me curious: what about all else before? You referenced a title I won 40 years ago and asked what I had won lately. I gave you a straight answer -- what have you won, ever?

Lou Figueroa
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More than Dan White, Pat Johnson, and Joey. What have THEY won. I've always asked that question and never got a response. But then again, I know the answer. NADA! Not even money unless a puny side bet for the cost of a beer or two.

One thing I've never been afraid to do is step into action with anyone and play for some money...win or lose. Do they?

You and I play for different reasons and in different things. I've knocked off some local tournaments but don't play in the things you do.

Like I said, I'm now where you were in the career part of my life and have been heavily for the last number of years. THIS is where the time needs to be spent because it's also where the money is.

If you can't understand that after having done it yourself, I can't help you.
 
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BeiberLvr said:
It's threads like these that make me remember why I stopped being a defender of CTE.
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I believe you are the only CTE person who actually understood the problems with it and eventually came out against it. I was surprised the first time you posted your concerns and it was good to see that people can, in fact, change their minds on AZ.
 
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