Snooker Cue Selection Question

I use the same snooker cue for both American Pool and Snooker.

if you aren’t getting into Snooker, then use your American Pool cue. Otherwise you will miscue a lot. Also, the purpose of the 9mm or so tip is is less for accuracy than controlled spin on the cueball. You won’t be able to do this until you’ve practiced with a Snooker cue.

re potting balls. Erase your brain. American Pool players aren’t as inept at potting balls on a Snooker table than they often experience. The issue is more they don’t approach the table the right way. They are like a novice at baseball who swings at wild pitches. Instead, always look for the best ‘strategy’ when you are at the table. Yes, balls are difficult to pot so you may only try to sink a ball 25% of the time. The best snooker players in the world might get to the table a half dozen times before trying to pot a ball.anyways, try out a snooker cue for fun but use your Pool cue.

re length. There’s 128 players on the exclusive Snooker pro circuit. All sizes of players. I don’t know any who use a 61” cue. More likely to go the other way to 56 or 57”. Nothing to do with reach but rather precision. We don’t get a longer handled brush to paint when we need to paint precise details. Also, an extra inch or two of cue use isn’t going to help much on a 12 foot Snooker table. In fact itmight hinder becoming proficient with the rest.
(in competition a player can only bring one cue to the table. Precision is needed on 90% of shots in Snooker. Extra ‘reach’ on maybe 1% so a player isn’t going to sacrifice accuracy for the odd time he needs an extra inch)


Strategy to win. 75% of shots, send the cue down table to bulk...end where you cue off. Repeat. Repeat. Patiently wait to shoot in a red...then cueball back to bulk. Repeat. Unless playing a very good player you will win 80% of games. Your opponent won’t be sinking 12 foot shots unless you leave him a hanger.
 
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I use the same snooker cue for both American Pool and Snooker.

if you aren’t getting into Snooker, then use your American Pool cue. Otherwise you will miscue a lot. Also, the purpose of the 9mm or so tip is is less for accuracy than controlled spin on the cueball. You won’t be able to do this until you’ve practiced with a Snooker cue.

re potting balls. Erase your brain. American Pool players aren’t as inept at potting balls on a Snooker table than they often experience. The issue is more they don’t approach the table the right way. They are like a novice at baseball who swings at wild pitches. Instead, always look for the best ‘strategy’ when you are at the table. Yes, balls are difficult to pot so you may only try to sink a ball 25% of the time. The best snooker players in the world might get to the table a half dozen times before trying to pot a ball.anyways, try out a snooker cue for fun but use your Pool cue.

re length. There’s 128 players on the exclusive Snooker pro circuit. All sizes of players. I don’t know any who use a 61” cue. More likely to go the other way to 56 or 57”. Nothing to do with reach but rather precision. We don’t get a longer handled brush to paint when we need to paint precise details. Also, an extra inch or two of cue use isn’t going to help much on a 12 foot Snooker table. In fact itmight hinder becoming proficient with the rest.
(in competition a player can only bring one cue to the table. Precision is needed on 90% of shots in Snooker. Extra ‘reach’ on maybe 1% so a player isn’t going to sacrifice accuracy for the odd time he needs an extra inch)


Strategy to win. 75% of shots, send the cue down table to bulk...end where you cue off. Repeat. Repeat. Patiently wait to shoot in a red...then cueball back to bulk. Repeat. Unless playing a very good player you will win 80% of games. Your opponent won’t be sinking 12 foot shots unless you leave him a hanger.
I appreciate all the advice offered here by various posters, but now I am even more confused! I think I’ll just take my cue down with me as it will at least provide me some level of comfort / familiarity when using it.

I plan to stay on the middle axis of the cue ball and play conservatively and at least try to make my far more experienced opponent earn whatever he gets.
 
I appreciate all the advice offered here by various posters, but now I am even more confused! I think I’ll just take my cue down with me as it will at least provide me some level of comfort / familiarity when using it.

I plan to stay on the middle axis of the cue ball and play conservatively and at least try to make my far more experienced opponent earn whatever he gets.
You will likely need a cue extension at some point.
 
Play with the snoker cue. You're best shot at playing moderately well is to make everything so foreign that you dial waaay back your willingness to swing.
 
Snooker cues are quite low deflection by nature. Pool cues deflect quite a lot(because balls are smaller and therefore lighter). Even my Z2.
I play pool cue because I don´t like snooker cue normal taper. Also when switching between games i only need switch aiming. Not feeling of cue.
I still think you will do better with snooker cue.
 
The geometry of the pockets. The mouths are radiused and will reject almost anything that doesn’t enter the pocket cleanly. What you would consider a simple shot down the rail to a corner pocket, will be rejected like the pimple faced kid at a junior high school dance! Oh yeah, the cloth has grain and will roll differently up table, down table and cross table.

Sending snooker to the States was England’s way of repaying us for the Revolutionary War! Bastards!

Alcohol won’t make it easier, but it can dull the pain a bit. 😁

Spot on, I used to play Snooker (not that much) back in the 90's and those down the rail shots are horrendous.
 
Snooker cues are quite low deflection by nature. Pool cues deflect quite a lot(because balls are smaller and therefore lighter).
Many snooker cues have tips down in the 9mm diameter range.
A 12mm (solid maple) pool cue will have 1.77× more end mass than a 9mm snooker cue.
A 2+1/4" pool ball weights about 170 grams so a 2+1/8 snooker ball will weigh about 143 grams (a pool ball weighs 19% more than a snooker ball)

The above suggests that if you are used to a 12mm pool cue tip, you will want an 1mm snooker cue tip
{But this assumes that the ferrules and shaft are made of the same materials.
Snooker cues tupically use brass ferrules (considerably heavier per unit volume than white plastic pool cue tips)
Ash is heavier and stiffer than maple.
I don't know how to run the math to try and incorporate those two additions to the analysis.}
 
Many snooker cues have tips down in the 9mm diameter range.
A 12mm (solid maple) pool cue will have 1.77× more end mass than a 9mm snooker cue.
A 2+1/4" pool ball weights about 170 grams so a 2+1/8 snooker ball will weigh about 143 grams (a pool ball weighs 19% more than a snooker ball)

The above suggests that if you are used to a 12mm pool cue tip, you will want an 1mm snooker cue tip
{But this assumes that the ferrules and shaft are made of the same materials.
Snooker cues tupically use brass ferrules (considerably heavier per unit volume than white plastic pool cue tips)
Ash is heavier and stiffer than maple.
I don't know how to run the math to try and incorporate those two additions to the analysis.}
I don´t know math either but i know how snooker cues deflects. Most are low/semi-low deflection..
 
Many snooker cues have tips down in the 9mm diameter range.
A 12mm (solid maple) pool cue will have 1.77× more end mass than a 9mm snooker cue.
A 2+1/4" pool ball weights about 170 grams so a 2+1/8 snooker ball will weigh about 143 grams (a pool ball weighs 19% more than a snooker ball)

The above suggests that if you are used to a 12mm pool cue tip, you will want an 1mm snooker cue tip
{But this assumes that the ferrules and shaft are made of the same materials.
Snooker cues tupically use brass ferrules (considerably heavier per unit volume than white plastic pool cue tips)
Ash is heavier and stiffer than maple.
I don't know how to run the math to try and incorporate those two additions to the analysis.}
The above suggests that if you are used to a 12mm pool cue tip, you will want an 1mm snooker cue tip

Make that an 11mm snooker cue tip (not 1mm) Sorry.
 
Just a datapoint, my pool cues are 12.5mm, my snooker cue 9.5mm, and it feels "right" to me.
 
This coming Thursday I’ll have the opportunity to play snooker on a true 6x12 for virtually the first time ever. I’m playing with a customer / friend who was a regular in our room and moved out of the area a few years ago. He would play snooker on our 5x10 pool table, as we purchased a set of 2-1/4” snooker balls and we marked the table for him, so he could play / practice. Once in a while I would play with him, although we usually played 9-ball on that table. About a year ago he purchased a used 6x12 and recently had it refurbished with new cushion rubbers and cloth.

My question is should I try to play with my 12.2 mm Ignite Mezz shaft and cue with a 4-inch butt extension, or should I play with his backup 61” snooker cue with a considerably thinner shaft / tip he’s offered me to use?

Obviously I’m planning to use minimal if any left or right spin, as I’m sure the smaller, lighter snooker cue ball will deflect completely different than what my subconscious brain has learned to account for when playing pool. It’s not like we’re playing for $, but I take pride in my game and would like to choose the cue that will give me the best chance to play decently.

My apologies if I should have posted this on the snooker forum, but I’m specifically looking for input / advice from those here who play both pool and snooker (with the smaller balls) and whether they choose to use the same or different cues?

How did it go on Thursday? Curious minds want to know! :)
 
This coming Thursday I’ll have the opportunity to play snooker on a true 6x12 for virtually the first time ever. I’m playing with a customer / friend who was a regular in our room and moved out of the area a few years ago. He would play snooker on our 5x10 pool table, as we purchased a set of 2-1/4” snooker balls and we marked the table for him, so he could play / practice. Once in a while I would play with him, although we usually played 9-ball on that table. About a year ago he purchased a used 6x12 and recently had it refurbished with new cushion rubbers and cloth.

My question is should I try to play with my 12.2 mm Ignite Mezz shaft and cue with a 4-inch butt extension, or should I play with his backup 61” snooker cue with a considerably thinner shaft / tip he’s offered me to use?

Obviously I’m planning to use minimal if any left or right spin, as I’m sure the smaller, lighter snooker cue ball will deflect completely different than what my subconscious brain has learned to account for when playing pool. It’s not like we’re playing for $, but I take pride in my game and would like to choose the cue that will give me the best chance to play decently.

My apologies if I should have posted this on the snooker forum, but I’m specifically looking for input / advice from those here who play both pool and snooker (with the smaller balls) and whether they choose to use the same or different cues?
If you’re just goofing around and only plan on playing snooker once in a while, shoot with what’s comfortable in your hands (you pool cue.). I had a 50 break with my 13mm pool cue. and I’m a nobody. You’ll be fine, if you’re not taking anything too serious. Is there a reason you can’t try out both?
 
If you’re just goofing around and only plan on playing snooker once in a while, shoot with what’s comfortable in your hands (you pool cue.). I had a 50 break with my 13mm pool cue. and I’m a nobody. You’ll be fine, if you’re not taking anything too serious. Is there a reason you can’t try out both?
Sounds like good advice. My Mezz Ignite is 12.25mm. At least I’ll have something that seems familiar, and no it’s not that important how I play. I only plan on playing with this friend on his 6x12 table may be a couple times a year since it’s two hours away, and we don’t gamble - just pride. The pressure will all be on him since he is the snooker player!

My biggest concern is I’ve been doing most of my practice lately going for a 14.1 high run on our 7 foot Diamond. A 6x12 will seem like a football field in comparison! I think if I can get in a few practice sessions on our 10 foot pool table between now and Thursday, that might help a little bit.
 
Wondering about the brass ferule--it it the weight of the brass ferrule making up for the mass of the thin shaft that equalizes end mass-to-ball weight ratio.
In general the brass is pretty thin so it's not as heavy as you would think. Also pretty short. I think John Higgins has gone for a titanium ferrule.
 
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