Rodney Morris Hall of fame??
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I’m sure the original poster would agree with you.
Best or Greatness IMHO is measured in dollar & cents. That is why the NFL & other sports pansy the best of the best well. Because they sell tickets, and fill spectator seats with paying customers.
L.S. Dennis
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The whole BCA Hall things seems to have become too political, why was Parica denied entrance for so long?
Character and reputation play no part in pool so every one with a cue in their hand and chalk in their back pocket is eligible.
Tough to answer this because "have become too political" doesn't really mean anything. I can't speak to before 2007, but with the USBMA, it's not like we have meetings, even in private, to try to deny any inclusion. Why did it take Parica so long? Bad timing. Same with Kim Davenport. Every inductee deserved inclusion, so just by the shear number of deserving players tends to have voters leave some players off for a while. I think that's where people get blinders on: there are so many top players in the 70's/80's that deserved to be in. Once these players hit 60, they go into the Veterans Category, which unfortunately if there are more than one deserving player, it's even tougher to get in since only one Veterans goes in every other year. Consider the list I put on the other thread. There are so many good players that deserve automatic induction (again, IMO). People are going to keep some off their list rather than just put everyone down like I do.
I think of other players on the edge that I don't think should be automatics, IMO, but I'm also surprised they aren't discussed more. Players like Jim Mataya (multiple World Championships, World All-Around), Jim Reid (US Open and many titles), Wade Crane (Player of the Year, Perfect 1.000, etc.). Compared to these other three, Parica didn't have to wait that long.
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Guy Manges
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Thats sad , Rodney earned it.
Mataya's two 'World' champs. are kinda 'World' in name only. In '71 there was no real 'World 9ball Championship' and his '72 'World All-Around'(also won the 9b division) was the all-around at the Stardust Jansco tournament. Great player no doubt but its kinda hard to compare those wins to true WC-level events.
That reasoning might eliminate other non-sanctioned world championship winners of that and earlier eras as well. That doesn't sound right either. But, as I said, he's not an automatic by any stretch. He'd be in the Veterans Category, and he gets brought up at the Veterans Committee voting.
St. Louie Louie Roberts and Keith McCready also belong.
9ballscorpion
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9ballscorpion
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Yeah, and I read that he went over to Taiwan, and challenged many of their top players, and came home with a boat load of money that he won off of them.
9ballscorpion
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He was one of the best, and probably feared by many great Champions, back in his prime.
There are some exceptions, but generally you don’t get invited to the MC unless you are considered among the current top 5 or certainly the top 10 players in the US or Europe. To have participated in the MC 10 times as Rodney has, just 1 behind Cory Deuel’s 11 appearances, is clearly a HOF worthy player, in both cases.
9ballscorpion
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They look at a players Character more then anything I think, and I do not think that Vivian is deserving for that reason alone, because I do not think she is a good person. That is also a reason why a player like Dennis Orcullo may never be a Hall of Famer, because he has done some things that the Hall of Fame would surely look down on, if they were aware. Getting into the Hall of Fame is not just about great accomplishments in the sport.
Many have argued that Corey shouldn't have been in a few lately, sadly, there just isn't anybody better to pick. If the good Corey would show up for the Cup it's a no-brainer.
Hall of Fame discussion across the board has become very weird in the last decade or so. Looks at baseball as a perfect example with inducting Harold Baines, a player who should not even be there. Mike Mussina got in but I can't think of anyone who thinks he is a hall of famer. The NFL puts everyone in. Same with basketball.
Pool is a weird game because everyone wants to put in players who majorly are known as top gamblers. I feel sometimes fans of this sport put more weight on that than actual titles.
A hall of fame should be for players who are considered the immortals of the game. Players who have/had a presence. That's why the committee was smart to put Danny Barouty in under the Contributors Wing. Even Danny would tell you he's not a HoF player. As for Rodney Morris? Great player, fun guy and represented the game very well, but not a HoF in my eyes.
Great discussion by the way. I can chat for hours regarding this topic.
Pool is a weird game because everyone wants to put in players who majorly are known as top gamblers. I feel sometimes fans of this sport put more weight on that than actual titles.
A hall of fame should be for players who are considered the immortals of the game. Players who have/had a presence. That's why the committee was smart to put Danny Barouty in under the Contributors Wing. Even Danny would tell you he's not a HoF player. As for Rodney Morris? Great player, fun guy and represented the game very well, but not a HoF in my eyes.
Great discussion by the way. I can chat for hours regarding this topic.