What makes a GREAT pool hall?

well, this + tables being 9ft and well groomed is my preferences as well. and no bowling nearby. preferably no air hockey or shuffleboards either, but if there are, it should be in an isolated area. dart, i don't mind.
Similar thoughts. I started out playing Snooker as a teen in the Officer’s mess. Darts went hand in hand with billiards. I’ve been conditioned where they just go together.

When I designed my billiards room, the darts lane was just an automatic addition to billiards. Unlike Snooker, I’ve never joined a darts league at the Legion. Don’t know why as I like the game.
 
2 Snooker tables. 4 Chinese 8 ball tables. 4 American style 9’ tables.

Well maintained equipment. Squeaky clean.

Natural Light. Nice decorum. No tacky movie posters of alcoholics and COPD candidates playing pool

No alcohol or food. Separate coffee shop.

No music, TVs.

Ambiance not a tacky game but more of a sport ....table tennis, Slowpitch, ball hockey, frisbee, soccer, etc. Healthy mature people getting together for a recreation activity with good conversation.
If you don't mind me asking, how old are you? No alcohol, food, music, tv?? You sound like tons of fun.
 
If you don't mind me asking, how old are you? No alcohol, food, music, tv?? You sound like tons of fun.
Pool to Americans is a bar game...of course they prefer a bar setting.

I prefer billiards as a sport. Like soccer, racquet ball, cycling , etc. Sports are actualky a lot of fun. Not alcohol or loud music focused.

Most top players at this month’s World Snooker championship are health and fitness oriented...OSullivan Selby,Robertson, Ding, Judd Trump. Selby and and O'Sullivan will go for a light jog between matches. Getting a natural high off of physical activity is actually better than a buzz off another beer.
 
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Pool to Americans is a bar game...of course they prefer a bar setting.

I prefer billiards as a sport. Like soccer, racquet ball, cycling , etc. Sports are actualky a lot of fun. Not alcohol or loud music focused.

Most top players at this month’s World Snooker championship are health and fitness oriented...OSullivan Selby,Robertson, Ding, Judd Trump. Selby and and O'Sullivan will go for a light jog between matches. Getting a natural high off of physical activity is actually better than a buzz off another beer.

There is a difference between a tournament setting, a stuffy gentleman's club with a membership fee and some guy pouring you tea in china cups, and a "pool hall". Big empty room with tables in it is not what anyone would call a "pool hall" nor is a place with people in tuxedos saying "jolly good" to you.

Griff's in Vegas is a good example of a nice pool hall, near my area there was Brighton Billiards that closed that was great but different, basement room, 8 properly setup tables, wait list that can reach over an hour, a bit smoky at times, guy making you burgers on a George Forman Grill, tough tournament, money players showing up there to play. Country Club USA was also great in New England, also closed. Lots of tables, two rooms including bleacher seating for tournaments, Joss tour and other tournaments went there often, but they had drinks, some food and even video games! The horror.
 
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It’s the action and the bull$#!t and nothing else.
It’s not the food.
It’s not the music.
It’s not the TVs.
It’s not the ambiance.
It’s not the waitresses.
 
Ok so there are a few factors here, but overall, I was wondering what makes up the difference between a good pool hall and a great pool hall in the eyes of a pool player. So which matters more in a pool hall, the setup, the owners, or the atmosphere while your there?
It doesn’t necessarily have to be the case, but generally, if the owner and manager are one in the same, and if they are present at the room most of the time, and if they share the same passion and love for the game of pool as their most loyal customers do and if they treat every customer with respect and appreciation for their support, everything else should take care of itself.

Of course there does have to be enough $ revenue coming in, generally from sources other than the pool table rental time, such as usually alcohol and food sales, in order for the owner/manager to afford to keep the atmosphere and playing conditions optimal.

The employees are also a huge factor. If the employees truly enjoy their job, perform their job duties and taking care of all customers as best they can and exude a positive attitude at all times, that also goes a long ways in making an overall pleasurable experience for the patrons. For that to realistically happen, all employees need to be well and fairly $ compensated for their efforts via decent $ wages in addition to bringing in decent $ gratuities.
 
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Speaking for both my son and myself and observations over the years at different places.
  1. Good equipment
    1. Several different types of good equipment
      1. New city and Steinway are great for examples
        1. New City has from snooker, to regular 9 foots and heated 3 cushion tables
        2. Steinway has a massage chair, plenty of tables but even pingpong, areas for chess players among other things
  2. great atmosphere for different types of visitors (as some others have mentioned)
    1. League players
    2. Tournament players
    3. Serious players
    4. Action types
    5. Social visitors
    6. including non pool equipment
      1. darts
      2. electronic games
      3. ping pong
      4. chess or whatever other games and an area for it
  3. full kitchen
    1. People like my son and myself need this as my son likes to go early and leave really late. At times, we eat breakfast and go....... not getting home till after midnight
    2. Can't stand going to a pool hall that has frozen pizza/burgers/corndogs as their menu
  4. good service
    1. This goes a long way with customers and interaction
  5. cleanliness
 
Great poolrooms begin with solid business plans. I know that's the least sexy answer one can give but a closed room always sucks. In my opinion, you need a management team that is flexible and professional. You want people that know the game well, that know the bar industry well, and know event coordination.

You want your room to be everything. It should be great for leagues, tournaments, events, and still be the best local pub in town. To get there, you want to have full control of your environment. No public jukebox but definitely a solid sound system with full access to any kind of music genre. You want a bar and wait staff big enough and professional enough that nobody has to wait for a drink but also mindful enough to know not to bother the serious players. You'll also need people dedicated to cleaning because bathrooms. When that group of new customers goes to the bathroom, let them be pleasantly surprised and not disappointed or grossed-out.

Then there is furniture and equipment. Obviously, you want great tables that are regularly maintained but you'll also want comfortable seating throughout the room. Ideally, you'll want cocktail-height chairs near your pool tables and conversational seating elsewhere. I love Amsterdam Billiards' arena style head tables. I think it's great to put the game on display and give your waitlist something to watch.

Rates can AND SHOULD BE flexible. You don't have to charge your regulars the same price as your walks-ins. Create a structure that encourages your serious players to play during off-peak hours but always remember, your rules are meant to be broken.

I'm not a big fan of food, mostly because food complicates things. If your room serves frozen food, people will say it tastes bad. If you serve fresh food, you'll struggle to break even on cost. That's not to mention the health inspection you have to pass. If you can swing it, the best bet is to partner with local restaurants, encourage food trucks to park in your lot. There are lots of options there. Either way, your customers shouldn't be hungry and you should take an active interest in finding a solution. It would just be ideal if that solution wasn't your responsibility.

I know a lot of people point to Steinway Billiards as a great food location. I think Steinway has a lot going for them. They serve mostly diner food in an area that has no diners and they have a lot of backgammon players using their diner area. They're also an old poolroom and established themselves as a diner/backgammon venue long before serious pool players *really* started going there. I also believe the owner actually owns the building and probably bought it before Astoria real estate boomed.
 
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