CTE and a 2x1 Surface Explored

Dan White said:
I find there to be a significant amount of leeway in each of these steps.
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And that's plainly obvious from the "descriptions" we get - no need to "take it to the table".

"Perception" = "feel".

Again, that's not an insult to the system (except in the minds of its users) - it just means it's like all the others.

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mohrt said:
Normally you don't even need to think about this, it is what comes naturally though a bit of practice. But it's just a detail I discovered experimenting. Maybe it's step toward unlocking the visual phenomena?
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To be clear, the visual phenomena or the "mystery that was not supposed to be" has to be something that ties the ball positions to the corner pockets. It can't simply be caused by looking at the balls funny.
 
mohrt said:
Sorry, this was those familiar with the terminology, AL is aim line, SL is sight line. These are the two fundamental components of a CTE perception.
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But to be fair the SL is now something it didn't used to be. It used to be the center to edge line but now it is nowhere near that, except for the B perception. Center to edge is not even used in 3 of the 4 shots, 15, 20, 45, 90.
 
Dan White said:
But to be fair the SL is now something it didn't used to be. It used to be the center to edge line but now it is nowhere near that, except for the B perception. Center to edge is not even used in 3 of the 4 shots, 15, 20, 45, 90.
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This was already discussed in this thread.
 
Dan White said:
I can't get it to work by the instruction you gave. Pointing the face toward the pocket is a big issue for me. How much? There are varying degrees that you can offset your face. You or someone said you just have to do it until it works and then you know you have it right. That, IMO, is basically HAMB. If you have to back out the parameters of the aiming system by pocketing the balls and then figure out how you did that then it is not a system. I also cannot see a "new" ccb when looking at the edge of the cb. I find there to be a significant amount of leeway in each of these steps.
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The angled face aids in getting the correct eye on the correct line. You don't have to worry about how much angle, what is important is getting on the perception so the AL and SL are "on". That is strange you cannot see the CCB from looking at the CB edge. The eyes see two centers (left pivot and right pivot), and putting focus on left/right edge of the CB forces your eyes to the appropriate CCB. From there you can place your cue stick there, and of course you will want to look directly at CCB once cue is very near.
 
mohrt said:
Ask him? That sounds pretty crazy to be proficient after one week. That's not typical.
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I forgot the other one where Low500 said he ran his first 100 balls in straight pool after learning CTE. It's guys like that that make a joke of it all. He deleted all those posts after a year or so, so I don't have to ask him. They are obvious lies.
 
mohrt said:
This was already discussed in this thread.
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You call it a fundamental part of CTE and I question that because the SL wasn't even a part of CTE until the new book came out. Yet, CTE seemed to work just fine either with or without the new SL.
 
mohrt said:
The angled face aids in getting the correct eye on the correct line. You don't have to worry about how much angle, what is important is getting on the perception so the AL and SL are "on". That is strange you cannot see the CCB from looking at the CB edge. The eyes see two centers (left pivot and right pivot), and putting focus on left/right edge of the CB forces your eyes to the appropriate CCB. From there you can place your cue stick there, and of course you will want to look directly at CCB once cue is very near.
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I can see ccb while looking at the edge of the cb but center doesn't look any different than when I am just looking at the cue ball. I'll try again to show that I'm giving it an honest try. I still find that there is a LOT of leeway in deciding when the AL and SL look on. For me it is more like, "I guess it is on" and has always had that issue.

Was it you who said when you start pocketing balls then you know you are doing it right?
 
Dan White said:
You call it a fundamental part of CTE and I question that because the SL wasn't even a part of CTE until the new book came out. Yet, CTE seemed to work just fine either with or without the new SL.
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There is definitely more than one way to skin a cat. Ever heard of 90/90?
 
Patrick Johnson said:
I maintain that "just guessing" doesn't exist except as your insecure need to imagine a way of aiming that yours can be better than.

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Ok, then enlighten us on how aiming is done. If aiming is not subjective then it is objective right?


Also I don't have any method of aiming that is mine.
 
JB Cases said:
...enlighten us on how aiming is done.
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Finalizing the aim line - the only actual "active aiming" that's done and the vast majority of the aiming effort - is done by rote memorization/recall with the orienting aid of objective "landmark" references. I think this describes all aiming methods.

pj
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