CTE and a 2x1 Surface Explored

Dan White said:
And what kind of scumbag hides behind a fake name while secretly taking notes on people in this forum? You accuse him of being a phony and nobody even knows your real name. What is it? He has a right to know when some guy is dissing him. You call that Valiant?
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Thanks, but don’t waste your time with this doofus - he clearly doesn’t know me or much of anything else.

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Valiant Thor said:
That is my name,google it
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OK, I just did, lol -- first hit: "...commander of the Venusian forces on our planet."

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Just a little more seriously, if you take a look at his posting history this is buried in there:

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Valiant Thor​

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Having met Stan several times,I can honestly say he is as honest and truthful as they come . When I retired several years ago and started to play pool seriously I could not make two balls in a row. I contacted Stan and took lessons twice.just could not make it work. Turns out I had a terrible stroke. After I got that fixed I started makeing balls like crazy . I play five nights a week,American legion, VFW, country club, and two bars in my town.i routinly win these tournaments so much so that if I win two weeks in a row I have to set out a week. I am 65 years old and play better pool than most all of the other guys who have been playing 20 or more years. ( I have been playing for 6 yr) . I think the way Stan has been attacked is a crying shame. The half dozen people who continue to hate on him should be ashamed of themselves . These people are what is wrong with society today.
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This was posted back in 2017, so he's now 69 years old and has been playing for 10 years. He wins VFW tournaments.

Lou Figueroa
can't make this stuff up
 

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lfigueroa said:
OK, I just did, lol -- first hit: "...commander of the Venusian forces on our planet."

Amazon.com

www.amazon.com


Just a little more seriously, if you take a look at his posting history this is buried in there:

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Valiant Thor​

AzB Silver Member​

Silver Member
Having met Stan several times,I can honestly say he is as honest and truthful as they come . When I retired several years ago and started to play pool seriously I could not make two balls in a row. I contacted Stan and took lessons twice.just could not make it work. Turns out I had a terrible stroke. After I got that fixed I started makeing balls like crazy . I play five nights a week,American legion, VFW, country club, and two bars in my town.i routinly win these tournaments so much so that if I win two weeks in a row I have to set out a week. I am 65 years old and play better pool than most all of the other guys who have been playing 20 or more years. ( I have been playing for 6 yr) . I think the way Stan has been attacked is a crying shame. The half dozen people who continue to hate on him should be ashamed of themselves . These people are what is wrong with society today.
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This was posted back in 2017, so he's now 69 years old and has been playing for 10 years. He wins VFW tournaments.

Lou Figueroa
can't make this stuff up
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So here we have a veteran making fun of a veteran for saying he wins tournaments at establishments that cater to veterans.

You are so right Lou, can't make this stuff up, but you can read stupid posts on AZ every single day, GUARANTEED
 
cookie man said:
So here we have a veteran making fun of a veteran for saying he wins tournaments at establishments that cater to veterans.

You are so right Lou, can't make this stuff up, but you can read stupid posts on AZ every single day, GUARANTEED
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I wasn’t mocking his tournament wins but rather his challenge to google him and turning out google says he’s commander of the Vesuvian forces on Earth.

If that’s not worth a laugh you need a funny bone transplant.

Lou Figueroa
 
lfigueroa said:
I wasn’t mocking his tournament wins but rather his challenge to google him and turning out google says he’s commander of the Vesuvian forces on Earth.

If that’s not worth a laugh you need a funny bone transplant.

Lou Figueroa
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Can you prove he isn't the commander of the Vesuvian forces?
 
lfigueroa said:
I wasn’t mocking his tournament wins but rather his challenge to google him and turning out google says he’s commander of the Vesuvian forces on Earth.

If that’s not worth a laugh you need a funny bone transplant.

Lou Figueroa
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Then why search back and bring up the tournament post from 2017. Although the fact you waste so much time searching old posts is quite funny in itself.
 
cookie man said:
Then why search back and bring up the tournament post from 2017. Although the fact you waste so much time searching old posts is quite funny in itself.
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Becauuuuuuuse, he's making a big deal about some of us and when asked who he was he said google him.

Google brought up his other worldliness. And taking a peek at his posts took a couple of minutes -- he only has three pages of posts.

Lou Figueroa
 

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lfigueroa said:
Becauuuuuuuse, he's making a big deal about some of us and when asked who he was he said google him.

Google brought up his other worldliness. And taking a peek at his posts took a couple of minutes -- he only has three pages of posts.

Lou Figueroa
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You better stop making sense, that don't belong here.
 
cookie man said:
So here we have a veteran making fun of a veteran for saying he wins tournaments at establishments that cater to veterans.

You are so right Lou, can't make this stuff up, but you can read stupid posts on AZ every single day, GUARANTEED
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No need to apologize.

Lou Figueroa
 
Dan White said:
Just to be clear what exactly do you think a shooting contest will prove? If you win what does that mean? If PJ or I win what does that mean?
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For me it would mean that my aiming system is superior to yours if we go from the premise that I am at a disadvantage because of faulty fundamentals and I win.

Basically if both of us are equal in fundamentals then a difference in scores could be because of how we aim.

If you are much better with the fundamentals and I come out ahead then how I aim is likely why.

If we break even then it's likely that respectively our aiming methods serve us well.

Feel free to suggest any test that a player can do to test out the efficacy of an aiming method.
 
Dan White said:
Tell her to find one line with her right eye and the other line with her left eye but be sure to turn her face toward the pocket first. How much? Doesn't matter. Yes, I find a lot of subjectivity in that process.

If you asked her to line up the center of the cue ball to the edge of the ob simply using her dominant vision then I'm sure she'd get pretty close and repeatable.
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What is subjective. You can't focus on something with either eye? You can't turn your face towards a pocket?

So you say that it is possible to get consistently good at lining up two objects using the eyes if one uses their "dominant vision"? Is that the only way to get consistently accurate?
 
Dan White said:
You claim to have a good grip on reality, right? What is more likely: a) randomly placed balls are connected to the pockets in some mysterious way that nobody has recognized in 125+ years of play, and in a way that even the most ardent CTE supporters cannot describe, or b) CTE gets you near enough to the pocket that your brain makes gentle adjustments as you get down on the shot to pocket the balls (or the adjustment is made somewhere in the process)?
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I don't think I have ever claimed to have a grip on reality. But I am cognizant enough to understand results from using different aiming methods.

The equation you seek to explain the connection between the visual approach and the shot lines is in the fifth dimension. Luckily you don't need it to derive the practical benefit of getting so so so close to the correct shot line through conscious use of cte that the subconscious instantly and invisibly moves the body into the perfect position.

You don't need to spend time looking for research papers on the subject. For the practical task of aiming the cue ball at the object ball cte serves you excellently and accurately.
 
mohrt said:
I'll share something I discovered at the table the other day, in an effort to dissect how CTE perception works. This is in no way part of the official instructions, so take it with a grain of salt.

You may recall the old "floating finger trick" from grade school:

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If not, just hold your arms straight out, index fingers point to each other, and focus past your fingers on the wall across the room. You'll see the illusion of a "floating finger". This is because of our parallax vision from two focal sources (our eyes).

Now, put the CB and OB one diamond apart on the table, and then stand behind the CB, down on the shot like you are going to shoot, such that your face is about one diamond behind the CB. Focus on the OB. What you'll see in your peripheral vision is two cueballs thickly overlapping each other. Again two sources of focus, two objects in our nearer vision to what we have focus on. You can also check this by closing each eye individually and thus seeing each cueball individually.

Armed with that information, now we get into specifics about the AL and SL alignment. Again will stick to the 30 perception. The AL is always aligned to the OB center and the CB edge. I like to start with my head poked way too far out so both AL and SL are clearly off the OB, then slowly move my head back toward the shot until the AL first touches the OB center. Now we know the correct eye is on the AL. Now for the SL. The SL is CB center to OB edge. However, there will technically be two separate cueballs overlapping each other while focused on the OB. So what happens is the SL becomes aligned to the apex of where the two cueballs overlap. That is the perfect "shot picture". Normally you don't even need to think about this, it is what comes naturally though a bit of practice. But it's just a detail I discovered experimenting. Maybe it's step toward unlocking the visual phenomena?
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Sounds like a spinoff of my double vision comment to Gene Impeccable. Essentially avoid the eyestrain by letting your vision go double. This provides a channel for aiming and alignment. Also it works very well on pool.
 
lfigueroa said:
No need to apologize.

Lou Figueroa
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I will apologize though Lou. Your comebacks and one liners have been pitiful lately. You used to be a little bit funny once in a while, now you have nothing. It's no fun commenting to you anymore. I can only guess that you are losing it in your old age. Sorry about that.
 
cookie man said:
I will apologize though Lou. Your comebacks and one liners have been pitiful lately. You used to be a little bit funny once in a while, now you have nothing. It's no fun commenting to you anymore. I can only guess that you are losing it in your old age. Sorry about that.
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For starters it might be helpful if you were able to differentiate between when I'm trying to be funny and when I'm just being sarcastic.

Lou Figueroa
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