is there a "best" way to make this shot?
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I can't say it's easier, so I'll have to agree. That said, if you can't hit a CB with light draw and gearing english accurately you have bigger problems to worry about. "Perfectly" is also really overstating the amount of precision it would take to drop this ball.
Maybe I should add that I'm the type of player that will nearly always opt to follow through a shot. Unless of course there's a threat of a negative outcome. If this was the match winning ball. Even the miniscule odds a kick throwing the CB into the corner would be enough for me to not to roll it.
That is common, more so at the amateur level, but good to see pro players making those types of errors on occasion.
I think the most common scratch shot error is when the player is cutting a thin shot into the side pocket, and the cb looks like it's a dead scratch. Most of the time, unless the shot is hit a bit thick, a rolling cb will dip into the side rail and not scratch. But a lot of players hit the shot with draw, and that's an automatic scratch.
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That's different than the shot that was diagrammed. Look at the cb near the rail in the diagrammed shot. There was a stronger angle in the diagram. If the cb starts to force follow on the diagram shot, yes, there's a possibility of a scratch, but otherwise there's no chance of a scratch.
PracticeChampion
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I just layer it out on the table, no need to jack up at all
The* question is whether your chances of missing the draw/gearing shot are more or less than the chances of a kick. The answer is different for different players.
*Another question is how accurately you can visualize the CB's carom path - also different for different players.
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I should note my look at it and shot was on a 7' table, might change my opinion on a 9'
I don't think any top 100 player would shoot this shot with left (inside) draw if it were game ball.
Have you had a chance to try any of the suggestions? Are you able to tell which side of the corner pocket the cue ball will hit for a slow roller? Which shot works best for you?
PracticeChampion
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Have you set it up yet? On a 7' table it's a pretty easy shot I would take without hesitation and my pockets are fairly tight 4.5", I don't hardly ever play a 9 footer but I'd imagine if that was all I played on it would be the same thought
There's really no need for inside spin. Using straight draw, just enough to get the cb rolling straight into the the side rail, will allow the the cb to come straight back off the rail.
But then again, it really depends on how comfortable you feel with the shot, as far as how you play it.
I've seen a fair share of good players shoot it that way, just because. There was no clear reason on the table why they should have. I think it's a habit thing.
Seeing as required adjustments for hitting a CB with draw/gearing should be a 'known' and possibility of a kick are completely unknown....
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Very true
I played it with center Cue ball and scratched 2 for 3 times, I'd imagine the one non scratch was just because I didn't get the ball in the same spot
What advice would you give to a player who rarely uses sidespin for position? Would you tell them to use gearing outside draw?
Straight draw... Wouldn't take much to protect yourself from the corner.
The notion of a player who "plays position" and isn't at the very least comfortable with side spin seems like a bit of a stretch. If I was giving shot advice to a player without a tip on his cue, I'd tell him to roll it and hope.
You guys can do what you will. I guess I've just played enough racks with questionable shots that I prefer to err on the side of caution.
I'm amazed that this is even being debated.
There are many players who play basic position who are very uncomfortable with side spin and if they have to use it, they use no more than 30% of max.
i disagree with this
bottom right would take it more easily straight across because you could hit the object ball fuller and throw the object ball into the pocket
it would not come as straight back after it hit the other rail