ONE STROKING

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meaning no "feathering" or warm up strokes once down
is bad?
get down /address the cue ball (minor adjustment ok )
pull back and shoot
is it bad to do this?
 
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Why not put some names to the opinions you're hearing? Who's saying that? They must be giving their reasons, right? What are they?
 
i cant give you specific names or references
its my recollection .
whats your opinion on this fran?
 
I think it's really a matter of visualization, giving your mind time to get a good feel for the shot by simulating a few strokes. It also allows you to doublecheck everything.

That said, I have a friend that seldom takes practice strokes. He just lines up, address the cb, then shoots. Every shot looks like a punch shot too, like a quick jab. It's weird, a terrible looking stroke, but he plays well with it.

When golfing, I sometimes don't do a practice swing. I just step up and address the ball and swing away. Other times, when it's more of a feel shot, like a chip and run or a 50yd wedge shot, I will take several practice swings to give my mind a good idea of how I want the shot to look and feel. I think method of practice strokes helps when playing pool also.
 
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I think it's really a matter of visualization, giving your mind time to get a good feel for the shot by simulating a few strokes. It also allows you to doublecheck everything.

That said, I have a friend that seldom takes practice strokes. He just lines up, address the cb, then shoots. Every shot looks like a punch shot too, like a quick jab. It's weird, a terrible looking stroke, but he plays well with it.

When golfing, I sometimes don't do a practice swing. I just step up and address the ball and swing away. Other times, when it's more of a feel shot, like a chip and run or a 50yd wedge shot, I will take several practice swings to give my mind a good idea of how I want the shot to look and feel. I think method of practice strokes helps when playing pool also.
thanks for the reply brian
 
I used to play entire matches (in league) without warmup strokes. It forced me to be sure of the line and come down in the right position. I may have done it five or six times and only one opponent noticed.

Watch Tony Drago for a prime example. Very few players can shoot like Tony Drago.

Beginners need the rehearsal and practice that warmups give them. Their arms have not yet learned how to move straight. Also, they very rarely come down on exactly the right line and adjustments are going to be required. It's better to fix the alignment and tip contact point during feathering rather than by a swoop on the final stroke. Many unschooled players fix their broken alignments by swooping.
 
I used to play entire matches (in league) without warmup strokes. It forced me to be sure of the line and come down in the right position. I may have done it five or six times and only one opponent noticed.

Watch Tony Drago for a prime example. Very few players can shoot like Tony Drago.

Beginners need the rehearsal and practice that warmups give them. Their arms have not yet learned how to move straight. Also, they very rarely come down on exactly the right line and adjustments are going to be required. It's better to fix the alignment and tip contact point during feathering rather than by a swoop on the final stroke. Many unschooled players fix their broken alignments by swooping.
thanks for the reply bob
 
I think it's really a matter of visualization, giving your mind time to get a good feel for the shot by simulating a few strokes. It also allows you to doublecheck everything.
I'm locally famous for how long I'm down on a shot and the amount of "practice" strokes I use. I generally triple check everything....lol

One stroking is an entertaining novelty, but in reality pretty haphazard way to play.
 
i cant give you specific names or references
its my recollection .
whats your opinion on this fran?
You may not understand or agree but when someone throws out arbitrary stuff like that, saying they heard it somewhere or read it somewhere and refuses to commit to the source, I don't like to respond, even though I do have an opinion about it. Why? Because to me it's the same as asking instructors the same question through PM's and pitting one up against the other. The person asking the question gets to compare notes. I don't bite that kind of bait. Either you tell us where you got that info or you won't have my response to your question. I'm a big believer in it being a two-way street. You have to put in your share of the work if you want help.
 
i honestly dont remeber who said it fran
but its my distinct impression is i have heard it
during a match being commentated i know i have heard commentators say
he (the player ) is rushing and one stroking or something to that effect especially after a miss
i respect your decision to not give an opinion as you have always been helpful to me in the past
but wish you would reconsider
pretty please....
i edited my original post to just ask the question
 
If one is confident in their stroke, then why do they need to make practice strokes? They can align the stick & make the stroke.

Mr. Jewett said practice strokes may be needed by beginners, etc.

Some make the smallest of movements with the stick before making the stroke.

Others make very exaggerated 'practice' strokes that do not resemble the actual stroke used at all.

Why do ask the question?
 
I sometimes practice one-stroking to force myself to perfect my stance and focus right away (especially if I notice I'm getting lazy about it).

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I'm locally famous for how long I'm down on a shot and the amount of "practice" strokes I use. I generally triple check everything....lol

One stroking is an entertaining novelty, but in reality pretty haphazard way to play.

I know a regional champion who one strokes everything. He moves from one shot to the next aligning the stick to the ball (then pulls back smoothly and delivers). As long as that is your routine it should not matter.
 
If one is confident in their stroke, then why do they need to make practice strokes? They can align the stick & make the stroke.

Mr. Jewett said practice strokes may be needed by beginners, etc.

Some make the smallest of movements with the stick before making the stroke.

Others make very exaggerated 'practice' strokes that do not resemble the actual stroke used at all.

Why do ask the question?
I ask the question to learn
 
i honestly dont remeber who said it fran
but its my distinct impression is i have heard it
during a match being commentated i know i have heard commentators say
he (the player ) is rushing and one stroking or something to that effect especially after a miss
i respect your decision to not give an opinion as you have always been helpful to me in the past
but wish you would reconsider
pretty please....
i edited my original post to just ask the question
C'mon. Let's get real here. It's nothing but idle curiosity to you. Regardless of what anyone says here, it's not like you're going to suddenly decide to devote a year of your pool-life to drop and shoot. If you are struggling with a problem with your game, I'll be happy to weigh in with the other instructors with an opinion that might help.
 
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Have you ever tried it? For how long?
yes i have tried it and still do
for about a year
i do it mainly in practice to be sure i am getting down correctly on the shot line
i have a tendency to come down left of the shot line
i used to shoot anyway
but now i am disciplined enough to recognize when that happens and get back up and re align
i will do it sometimes in games when i have a long straight in or a tough shot like cue ball frozen on the rail and a long shot
i get down and make sure it looks right
then i go back slowly being sure to be taking the cue back straight
pause
and release
 
I know a regional champion who one strokes everything. He moves from one shot to the next aligning the stick to the ball (then pulls back smoothly and delivers). As long as that is your routine it should not matter.
There's outliers to justify any argument. I could copy'n'paste a list of the last 10yrs of world champion players and none of them one stroke. They can, like we all can, but they don't play the game that way for a reason.

Reliable consistency regardless of the method is the point I think you're making. I agree completely.
 
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