Is Schmidt's and charlie 626 Legit

[Dan Harriman]

I'm quite sure that John Schmidt, and most of the pool world isn't as worried about pleasing the few of you who expect, nay... DEMAND that they be able to play the video in their home. As if you have a right to it...heh heh.

This post was out of bounds bruce, u might want to try a different sauce as this won't due. Not really sure who 'a few of you' are but again at this point there are many thousands - who doubt the claim rather that a few. I and many other 14.1 aficionadas are not DEMANDING anythin - just simply asking to see unedited confirmation, Mosconi's World Record has been around almost 70yrs. So as tax paying citizens and Sports Historians/14.1 students - we do have the right to see the unedited video - if in fact there is a new record.

 

[justadub]

This post was out of bounds bruce, u might want to try a different sauce as this won't due. Not really sure who 'a few of you' are but again at this point there are many thousands - who doubt the claim rather that a few. I and many other 14.1 aficionadas are not DEMANDING anythin - just simply asking to see unedited confirmation, Mosconi's World Record has been around almost 70yrs. So as tax paying citizens and Sports Historians/14.1 students - we do have the right to see the unedited video - if in fact there is a new record.

ok, "Dan"...thanks for bringing my name back into it, since it appears to be important to you. Since I'm a complete nobody in the pool world, and barely know which end of the cue to hold.

Yet for some reason, you gravitate back to my old posts in this thread. The one you've quoted just now...I think that must've been last year, wasn't it? Maybe not, but it certainly was a long time ago.

I've generally left you alone lately, why the sudden need to bring back my old posts again? Are you trying to pull me back into the argument?

Do you miss me?

 

[Dan Harriman]

Do you go back and re-read this foolishness, over and over again, to come up with more talking points? I made that reply a long time ago, yet you reply back to it today?

You are obsessed with this. I hope you find some joy in actually playing pool still, it would be a shame for someone with your ability to not actually enjoy it any longer.

A few months ago - does not equal - a long time, u must spend yer day in front of a computer (possibly for a job) . u may want to go back and re read my original post, I stated that if u do not play 14.1on a regular basis - yer opinion has less value. So for not being a student of 14.1 (as I AM) u seem to have much interest in others who ARE passionate about purchasing unedited footage of the run - as u have posted in this thread at a high frequency? Now - before u say - it is j.s.'s and bca's product - and they can promote it how they so choose - that is not accurate either - they have included Mosconi in their claim, THEY DO NOT OWN THE RIGHTS TO Mosconi's 526 - just ask the Smithsonian -if u don't believe me. So again for someone who does not practice 14.1 (maybe never) u have an unusual amount of interest in helping to prop up the bca's 'strong recommendation'. I recon u have the right heh heh - I would say u love folklore that is based off of conjecture. That is fine, I just prefer non fiction - rather than the mystery science theater show/presentation. Also it is my opinion to be great at any occupation - a person must be slightly compulsive/obsessive about that particular subject - u proby would not understand - but I do see yer obsessed with supporting conjecture - as if it were fact.no i no miss u - just helping others to see who u truly are is ill'. Not to worry bruce - the cancel culture - will never take away my love for the Classic Game 14.1. Thank u for the Dan reference - u not all bad bruce, I like a good Western as well - however when it comes to 14.1 World Record keeping - I prefer fact based literature.

 

[Black-Balled]

Pretenders for the throne of Mosconi 526 are just like a mouse game at a fair for trying to win a prize, to no avail.
You keep popping up out of your holes.
Dan Harriman keeps hammering you back into your holes.
Do any of you BCA-pool.com supporters wonder why the BCA no longer has a ‘records committee’ or any committees for properly managing their pocket pool related business arenas.
Because they don’t need them to manage their swimming pool business partnerships.
Opps, spilled the beans, again.

Said Danny's shadow (I'm not Charles Daniel Harriman).

 

[Dan Harriman]

Dear cuedup, Do u think the Smithsonian Institute will accept the cancel culture 626 video presentation as a World Record - next to Mosconi's? I am truly interested in yer answer here - if u have one - u may ask yer buddy dr marek or is it dr barett - what ever his name is to respond to the same question - if he or she so chooses. I am waiting for yer hollywood answer, what happened - I thought hollywood was doing just fine? u seem to be absent from a very pertinent honest question? Maybe part of staying away from this thread helps them in their hollywood stardom. Not much for stamina are ya? u can now see the dust from my feat, this could be a sign for u to wear yer mask. I prefer running cross country - rather than the bca constant left turns. Come on - run with me. cuedup will probly choose to not answer this question, The Prestigious Smithsonian - is much different than the ny times - when it comes to Proper Sports History Adjudication - very different.
So lets hear what hollywood cuedup - has to say about why the The Smithsonian has NOT accepted the 626 as Legit, this should be entertaining.
Dan Harriman "The Springfield Rifle"

 

[Black-Balled]

A few months ago - does not equal - a long time, u must spend yer day in front of a computer (possibly for a job) . u may want to go back and re read my original post, I stated that if u do not play 14.1on a regular basis - yer opinion has less value. So for not being a student of 14.1 (as I AM) u seem to have much interest in others who ARE passionate about purchasing unedited footage of the run - as u have posted in this thread at a high frequency. Now - before u say - it is j.s.'s and bca's product - and they can promote it how they so choose - that is not accurate either - they have included Mosconi in their claim, THEY DO NOT OWN THE RIGHTS TO Mosconi's 526 - just ask the Smithsonian -if u don't believe me. So again for someone who does not practice 14.1 (maybe never) u have an unusual amount of interest in helping to prop up the bca's 'strong recommendation'. I recon u have the right heh heh - I would say u love folklore that is based off of conjecture. That is fine, I just prefer non fiction - rather than the mystery science theater show/presentation. Also it is my opinion to be great at any occupation - a person must be slightly compulsive/obsessive about that particular subject - u proby would not understand - but I do see yer obsessed with supporting conjecture - as if it were fact.no i no miss u - just helping others to see who u truly are is ill'. Not to worry bruce - the cancel culture - will never take away my love for the Classic Game 14.1.

Then why are your posts so full of lies, given your alleged pursuit of non-fiction.

Is it coz you fight the good fight that lies are ok for you to spew?
Is it coz your hatred for John is to the point you'll continue to ruin your already horrid reputation further into the ground?
What drives you, charlie? Don't say 'truth'. That obviously is not it.

 

[JB Cases]

Ha ha cuedpie, The Smithsonian Institute - recognizes Mosconi's true World Record. u should send the Prestigious - Smithsonian yer chopped video n see if they recognize any 'new record'. u may find that the Smithsonian - along with many others will not purchase the product u and bca are trying to dip us into with yer spread. So again that is where yer hollywoodcancel culture show business buck will STOP, u see The Smithsonian requires more "extraordinary evidence" than nytimes. when I enter my local bar here the - the hustlers - leave me be - they take their spread elsewhere, u may choose to do the same eventually - or not. u may find the Prestigious Smithsonian Institute will need more than a bca's strong recommendation i.e. chopped hollywood video spread. Let me know - if u have any questions - I will have an answer for u.

um, the Smithsonian is not the book of records. They are the archive of American and natural history. Perhaps you are thinking of the library of congress when it comes to contributing material. John's video and related materials would be accepted by the Smithsonian and cataloged as part of history without making a judgement on whether achievement constituted a record.

In the Library of Congress all copyrighted works of art which is what John's video constitutes would be accepted and cataloged IF John chose to submit it.

The BCA is the keeper of records in pool in America. They have certified this achievement and because John ran more balls than Mosconi he has broken Mosconi's public record of balls run.

I can only imagine how much this hurts you. Your nemesis in pool broke your pool hero's record. That has to be a brutal situation to wake up to every day. You can't change the fact that John broke Willie's record but the next best thing you could do is to break John's record. Can you do it? Not while you are typing out anguished cries of pain on here.

 

[JB Cases]

Fair enough, lost access to billiard table I had and have more free time on my hands due to the global gained function plandemic'. I play billiards and Bank now uh dais'. I just could not help but notice that u had the same thing in common with many of the facebook posters (who's replies were deleted in beginning of the thread). Y'all try to downplay the importance of the attempted theft of Mosconi's true World Record by asking why this thread is still running? Call it endurance and or longevity - I used to run competitively (even broke a few small Records). It would be a shame to waste my life playing pool when there is a billiard table around, if my pace is too fast 4 u then u can choose to either block me or simply not engage in further discussion. I will leaf u be justucopy. If u have some pertinent info as to why the run is being hidden from proper inspection - u may do so, but stating the question (as u have many times in this thread) asking why the thread is still around - won't work. Calling us nitpickers and or conspiracy theorists - for simply asking to see unedited video proof of bca's Claim - won't work either. U uh little crabby today, I hope it gets better for ya. Good day

For the record you probably have a much better chance of doing something notable in pool rather than in carom billiards. I guess you don't consider Bob Jewett, a man who has put his own money into professional level straight pool tournaments, and other luminaries with sterling reputations, to be unqualified to judge the veracity of the run.

 

[lfigueroa]

um, the Smithsonian is not the book of records. They are the archive of American and natural history. Perhaps you are thinking of the library of congress when it comes to contributing material. John's video and related materials would be accepted by the Smithsonian and cataloged as part of history without making a judgement on whether achievement constituted a record.

In the Library of Congress all copyrighted works of art which is what John's video constitutes would be accepted and cataloged IF John chose to submit it.

The BCA is the keeper of records in pool in America. They have certified this achievement and because John ran more balls than Mosconi he has broken Mosconi's public record of balls run.

I can only imagine how much this hurts you. Your nemesis in pool broke your pool hero's record. That has to be a brutal situation to wake up to every day. You can't change the fact that John broke Willie's record but the next best thing you could do is to break John's record. Can you do it? Not while you are typing out anguished cries of pain on here.

It is not a fact until unedited video is made available for anyone and everyone to review.

And let me be clear: JS does not "owe" that to anyone. However, until he does release unedited video, the question will always remain for many of us: maybe he did, maybe he didn't. A couple of guys at the BCA saying he did does not make it "fact;" neither does showing video played at high speed.

Not by a long shot.

Lou Figueroa

 

[gerryf]

Ha ha cuedpie, The Smithsonian Institute - recognizes Mosconi's true World Record. ... The Smithsonian requires more "extraordinary evidence" than nytimes. ... u may find the Prestigious Smithsonian Institute will need more than a bca's strong recommendation ....

Danny, you don't understand how the Smithsonian works. It collects items that may have cultural significance. Sometimes they go and collect them, (Julia Child's kitchen) but more often items are donated.

If you look at the Smithsonian, you can see that the "Mosconi papers' were donated by Willie Mosconi. The Smithsonian doesn't attest to the truth of anything. They just collect things. In the Smithsonian they have four Mosconi items. The affidavit after he ran 526 balls, some notes from his wallet on billiards strategy, a poster from when he was 11 years old, and some images of him playing. The Smithsonian doesn't care about Straight Pool high-run records, and doesn't certify them. That's done by the BCA.

The Smithsonian also has a 'Veg-o-matic' - donated by the Popeil family.

The Smithsonian also has Indiana Jones' hat and jacket - donated by Harrison Ford.

The Smithsonian also has Warren Harding's pajamas.

And if you look, you can see an exhibit on Justice Clarence Thomas, and his views on affirmative action. Justice Thomas says it's fake, and says they didn't ask him or even talk to him before they set up the exhibit. Who are you going to believe??

The Smithsonian collects cultural artifacts - they don't authenticate them as being anything other than they appear.

The Smithsonian doesn't have anything on Babe Cranfield, Jimmy Caras, or even Jethro Bodine! Geez!

And something you can identify with. The Smithsonian also has samples of fossilized sloth poop! Yes, even you have a chance to be an exhibit there!!

 

[gerryf]

This is Dr. Bob Jewett's effort at 'measurement interference'. Attempt failed - the people are still waiting to see that unedited proof proof - that bca,j.s,c.w,nytimes - all claim there is. Just cause charlie and business assoc. promoted a non WPA sanctioned 14.1 event for a few years - does not give them the right to become Sports History scavengers - and steal Mosconi's true World Record. Post all the obfuscated #'rs u choose to bob - the people are beginnig to see the bca/csi true colors.

Danny, here you're responding to Bob Jewett's post from the middle of March.

You're really struggling to keep this going aren't you? The hate you have for John Schmidt must keep you up at night.

It's not really clear to me what Schmidt did to hurt your feelings, but they were visibly affected long before he set the new Straight Pool High-Run Record.

Somebody said it was because he tossed your chalk off the table? Somebody else said (me) that he might have tried to date your sister?

I kind of like the idea that you're actually brothers, separated in childhood. He's the more famous brother, winning awards and tournaments, and setting records. You're the other brother, the one who was always known for thinking that your father was really a CIA agent but had to dress up as a Sasquatch to keep his identity secret. If you ask, we can set up a GoFundMe account to raise enough money that you can have your own Sasquatcfh suit.

 

[gerryf]

It is not a fact until unedited video is made available for anyone and everyone to review.

Just like the moon landings. No witnesses have come forward to say that they saw Apollo 11 touch down. We're still waiting to hear.

A couple of guys at the BCA saying he did does not make it "fact;" neither does showing video played at high speed.

Of course it is a BCA sanctioned record, so having the BCA involved is suspicious all by itself.

Not by a long shot.

Most of Schmidt's shots were less than half-a-table, so yeah, i can see why you'd say not by a long shot.

 

[gerryf]

7 pages later, almost seems like two different people? I hear bob jewett likes to play billiards - wonder if he would wager in some friendly three railers - wit me. We could livestream the footage - i would share it with Open Public - f.o.c.

Danny, here you're responding to a post from last November. That's eight months ago!

It's hard work trying to keep your conspiracy theory alive isn't it?

 

[gerryf]

This post was out of bounds bruce, u might want to try a different sauce as this won't due. Not really sure who 'a few of you' are but again at this point there are many thousands - who doubt the claim rather that a few. I and many other 14.1 aficionadas are not DEMANDING anythin - just simply asking to see unedited confirmation, Mosconi's World Record has been around almost 70yrs. So as tax paying citizens and Sports Historians/14.1 students - we do have the right to see the unedited video - if in fact there is a new record.

And this response is to a post that's six month's old!

Danny, good work!! You're sharp as a tack all right.

 

[gerryf]

and this figure has a gold star rating, yer corrupt - but at least yer honest about the corruption. lots of bogus claims 'up on the internet' j.s,c.w,m.g. Claim will be laughed at from the Smithsonian Institiute (where Mosconi's record Stands tall) - above the cancel culture cowards of todays knee jerk/charlie horse journalists. His post was edited - originally he stated that the bca could be corrupt - and that was just the way of the world. What a guy. He also took down all of his or her's bca/bcapl affiliations in his prior avatar. Wonder why?

Danny, this responses is to a post from last October. Eight months!! And you respond to it today like the post was freshly minted.

Wow!

You sure sound desperate! And your desperation is only increasing. I wonder why?

 

[JB Cases]

It is not a fact until unedited video is made available for anyone and everyone to review.

And let me be clear: JS does not "owe" that to anyone. However, until he does release unedited video, the question will always remain for many of us: maybe he did, maybe he didn't. A couple of guys at the BCA saying he did does not make it "fact;" neither does showing video played at high speed.

Not by a long shot.

Lou Figueroa

Really, so if the video were available then WHOSE opinion counts? I mean if even one, and there is always one, person were to contend that the video was doctored then wouldn't the controversy continue? Wouldn't that ONE person's statement of doubt be as valid as any other person's? If not why not?

Is there a percentage of viewers who affirm that they believe something to be true for it to be accepted as true? Is your opinion any more valid than Bob Jewett's opinion? Is it equal to Bob's knowledge of this subject? How about Freddie Agnir? Do you consider him to be a fool or easily fooled? Are you more qualified to judge this than either of those two? Maybe you are if you have some history with doctoring or doctored video. But if so then you could offer your expertise and the video need not be released to everyone for free. But what then when someone else says you are part of the conspiracy and challenges your claimed expertise?

Well, all that mind-bending speculation aside, I predict that John will sell out all the shows he puts up for many years to come. Those people will have a great evening with a newly-minted living legend for the paltry price of $50.

 

[lfigueroa]

Just like the moon landings. No witnesses have come forward to say that they saw Apollo 11 touch down. We're still waiting to hear.

Of course it is a BCA sanctioned record, so having the BCA involved is suspicious all by itself.


Most of Schmidt's shots were less than half-a-table, so yeah, i can see why you'd say not by a long shot.

Witnesses to the moon landing? -- I recall watching the moon landing live with my dad.

And no, it's not about suspicion because of the BCA.

Lou Figueroa

 

[lfigueroa]

Really, so if the video were available then WHOSE opinion counts? I mean if even one, and there is always one, person were to contend that the video was doctored then wouldn't the controversy continue? Wouldn't that ONE person's statement of doubt be as valid as any other person's? If not why not?

Is there a percentage of viewers who affirm that they believe something to be true for it to be accepted as true? Is your opinion any more valid than Bob Jewett's opinion? Is it equal to Bob's knowledge of this subject? How about Freddie Agnir? Do you consider him to be a fool or easily fooled? Are you more qualified to judge this than either of those two? Maybe you are if you have some history with doctoring or doctored video. But if so then you could offer your expertise and the video need not be released to everyone for free. But what then when someone else says you are part of the conspiracy and challenges your claimed expertise?

Well, all that mind-bending speculation aside, I predict that John will sell out all the shows he puts up for many years to come. Those people will have a great evening with a newly-minted living legend for the paltry price of $50.

It's not a matter of whose opinion counts, nor percentages, nor who is more qualified.

So, many folks are convinced. Fine. But some are not. Also fine.

Lou Figueroa

 

[Cuedup]

Like Flat Earth Theory.

 

[JB Cases]

It's not a matter of whose opinion counts, nor percentages, nor who is more qualified.

So, many folks are convinced. Fine. But some are not. Also fine.

Lou Figueroa

Not fine when they are alleging fraud which is exactly what is happening.

If you think John didn't achieve the feat he claims he did and John has charged money for access to the video on the claim that he did then it is fraud.

Are you accusing John Schmidt of fraud?