SVB to Kick Off High Run Attempts

[maha]

the basket ball shots was incredible in one hour.

even with helpers. but were they allowed to lower the pressure in a standard basketball? or lower the hoop height? or widen it?
or make the backboard dead so balls would more easily bounce in? what was the standard?

 

[nick serdula]

He ran the balls but not in match play. That counts for shit. Except he did it twice!

 

[lfigueroa]

He ran the balls but not in match play. That counts for shit. Except he did it twice!

To the best of my knowledge, what Greenleaf, and other champions of the era did, was to sometimes play block matches -- with stops in like six city -- to 1200 points.

Lou Figueroa

 

[AtLarge]

He ran the balls but not in match play. That counts for shit. Except he did it twice!

Where are you getting this information?

 

[nick serdula]

I grew up in a poolroom form pre K. Willie's poolroom was 200 miles away if that. He owed much of his success in pool to Ralph. His teacher. It might be in Willies Bio. It was common knowledge in was Halls upstate in the early and mid 60's into the 70's.

 

[skogstokig]

To put things in prospective >>> Why does it seem these people go on about John Schmidt running over 600.
Greenleaf ran over 1200?
On pure shit equipment compared to todays.

sounds like a straight rail score, or some iteration of balkline?

 

[bbb]

what was shanes hi run?

 

[lfigueroa]

sounds like a straight rail score, or some iteration of balkline?

I was thinking the same thing but I don’t know that Greenleaf did more than dabble in balkline.

Lou Figueroa

 

[Z-Nole]

At the very LEAST, John Schmidt should have been INVITED to be interviewed so HE could shed some light on what it takes mentality AND emotionally to get on the table and face what these competitors are facing at this event. HIS insight in an interview would have brought you guys a ton of credibility, and NO ONE would have said one negative word about whats taking place today, and JS wouldn't even have had to shoot a single ball, but at the end of your event, respect could have been given to JS if everyone who attends fails to surpass HIS record of 626....by then ASKING him if he'd like to take a shot at breaking his OWN record in front of the viewing public, and GOD as a witness!!! THAT'S REAL PUBLIC RELATIONS!!!!!

JS has had plenty of time to be interviewed to shed light on anything he wants, it's not his God given right to be invited to anything. And look at you trying to tell someone else how to run their event.....too funny.....

 

[Cuedup]

What is a high run?
100 balls?
300?

 

[realkingcobra]

It means you probably know a thing or two about pool tables.

Lou Figueroa

I might know a thing or two about pool tables, but playing pool for over 50 years has had its influence on how I make tables play too

 

[AtLarge]

I grew up in a poolroom form pre K. Willie's poolroom was 200 miles away if that. He owed much of his success in pool to Ralph. His teacher. It might be in Willies Bio. It was common knowledge in was Halls upstate in the early and mid 60's into the 70's.

No, Moscoi's autobiography says nothing about such a run by Greenleaf. But the book does contain the information that Irving Crane set the exhibition high-run record of 309 in 1939 and Mosconi equaled it in 1945. Talking about his own run of 309, Mosconi said "... no one but Crane had ever run 300 before." The next increments to the high-run record were 322 and then 365, both by Mosconi in 1953, after Greenleaf had died. So I guess any really long run by Greenleaf would have been in practice (as you indicated).

Sam Korte, an AzB member with the screen name kling&allen, did a lot of research on Greenleaf and wrote a book about him last year. I'll send a message to Sam to see if he'll chime in on the claim of a 1,200-ball run (or two of them!) by Greenleaf.

 

[nick serdula]

The game was line em up. He was so good the game of straight had to be changed because no one in the world could compete at his level.
Much like todays cloth they dummied the game down to make it where more people could compete at a higher level.
So put some old heavy cloth on a table.
Open the pockets to maybe a half inch bigger and run almost 100 racks.
I was told 10 foot tables!
That and Good luck!
Nick .

 

[measureman]

No, Moscoi's autobiography says nothing about such a run by Greenleaf. But the book does contain the information that Irving Crane set the exhibition high-run record of 309 in 1939 and Mosconi equaled it in 1945. Talking about his own run of 309, Mosconi said "... no one but Crane had ever run 300 before." The next increments to the high-run record were 322 and then 365, both by Mosconi in 1953, after Greenleaf had died. So I guess any really long run by Greenleaf would have been in practice (as you indicated).

Sam Korte, an AzB member with the screen name kling&allen, did a lot of research on Greenleaf and wrote a book about him last year. I'll send a message to Sam to see if he'll chime in on the claim of a 1,200-ball run (or two of them!) by Greenleaf.

The 309's by Willie and Irving were on 10 foot tables, the standard of the day.
It would be interesting to see how many balls todays best 14.1 players could run on a 5x10.
Is there any modern high runs on a 5x10?

 

[kling&allen]

The game was line em up. He was so good the game of straight had to be changed because no one in the world could compete at his level.
Much like todays cloth they dummied the game down to make it where more people could compete at a higher level.
So put some old heavy cloth on a table.
Open the pockets to maybe a half inch bigger and run almost 100 racks.
I was told 10 foot tables!
That and Good luck!
Nick .

You might be thinking of the various straight rail and balkline games that had to be changed every few years to allow better competition. The best straight rail players could "nurse" a ball against the rail for hours--achieving frequent runs of 600+ points. But that's vastly different than runs in 14.1. And balkline quickly died once Greenleaf and others started playing 14.1.

Pre-WW2 straight pool was typically played on a 10 foot table and 5+ inch corner pockets. But no one ran 100 racks or anything close to it. They didn't have the time or incentive.

 

[alstl]

The 309's by Willie and Irving were on 10 foot tables, the standard of the day.
It would be interesting to see how many balls todays best 14.1 players could run on a 5x10.
Is there any modern high runs on a 5x10?

At DCC a few years ago they used a 10' table for the 14.1 event. Only one player ran 100 balls for the entire event.

 

[Cameron Smith]

At DCC a few years ago they used a 10' table for the 14.1 event. Only one player ran 100 balls for the entire event.

Given the recent standard on the big table events, I bet we’d see bigger runs if they brought the 10 foot table back for a 14.1 challenge event.

 

[gerryf]

Wrldpro,

Last night on FB, you said
"Thanks again to Shane VanBoening for an exciting week of some great 14.1 high runs! We greatly appreciate it! His top five runs were 308,295,257,241,210."

I can see four of those runs, but the 257 doesn't show up on any of the videos?

 

[wrldpro]

Wrldpro,

Last night on FB, you said
"Thanks again to Shane VanBoening for an exciting week of some great 14.1 high runs! We greatly appreciate it! His top five runs were 308,295,257,241,210."

I can see four of those runs, but the 257 doesn't show up on any of the videos?

257 was on Monday

 

[gerryf]

257 was on Monday

The 241 is on Monday's video, but the 257 isn't.

On an earlier post you also mentioned a couple of 140 level runs that Monday, but they aren't on Monday's video either.

Is it on video?