Is this a counterfeit predator

garczar said:
Your call. I can't believe they didn't say it had been fixed.
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I know. Especially after I called them out on it and showed them the 3k7 didnt have that black ring on it. Weirdest thing was, the guy is from a town where i used to live and new the guy i sold my old 3k7 to.
 
garczar said:
Go look on Pred's site or just Google it.
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Thats what I did and i cant tell if the logo is different or not. Looks different in this photo
 

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Im thinking its a real predator that has been repaired. Maybe even by predator. As the wood looks the same after the ring as before it
 
Bterry said:
Im thinking its a real predator that has been repaired. Maybe even by predator. As the wood looks the same after the ring as before it
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Wrong. Look at the joint rings. Predator would not have done that. Different joint????????? Are you kidding me. Someone on Ebay was looking for a sucker. Either return it or be stuck with a pos repaired Pred. Your call brother. Goodbye.
 
Bterry said:
Lol. They will fake anything. I do miss my 3k7 tho. Nostalgia more than the hit…
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I don't think it was a fake just broken and fixed. You've gotta do your homework and not be in a rush to buy. For that kind of money go buy a Mezz for $500. Best production cues you can buy imo. Love mine.
 
Bterry said:
Here is another. Look at the nickle ring. Looks to be losing paint or finish. But its 20 year old cue so may be normal. Cue looks in really good shape too with very few nicks but the z2 shaft is beat to hell. 🤷🏼‍♂️
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The metal rings don't shrink , but the wood and surrounding material do. It causes the finish to lift. The nickel rings need to be turned down and cue refinished to repair it.

There's nothing "wrong" with the cue...unless the seller didn't disclose it's condition.

It's not a fake.
 
SBC said:
The metal rings don't shrink , but the wood and surrounding material do. It causes the finish to lift. The nickel rings need to be turned down and cue refinished to repair it.

There's nothing "wrong" with the cue...unless the seller didn't disclose it's condition.

It's not a fake.
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I just saw forearm picture...someone broke it at the forearm and repaired it. As I said above, the butt is genuine with popped rings.

I seen that type of repair with a very nice Gina cue I almost bought at auction for 4k. It was repaired with another Gina cue forearm and steel joint. The cue would have had an ivory joint. After the auction closed, the buyer got ahold of me to sell it. His pictures showed the repair...which tremendously devalued the cue and I passed.

Buyer beware.
 
I had this exact cue several years ago. Unless this was a pre production run I have never seen that back circle around the points. May have been a repair I suppose. Did you buy this off the forums? I saw a cue exactly like this on the predator forum recently and whomever posted it stated that they would call predator and see if it was legit based on the uncertainty from the comments of others.
 
I bought it off ebay. The guy specifically told me it had not been repaired when I asked him. Obviously wasn’t the truth now that I have the cue in hand. I am trying to return it now. We will see how it goes.
 
Bterry said:
I bought it off ebay. The guy specifically told me it had not been repaired when I asked him. Obviously wasn’t the truth now that I have the cue in hand. I am trying to return it now. We will see how it goes.
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Seller lied to you. They have to take it back. You didn't send the $$ Paypal F&F did you?
 
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Yup. He lied to me. I sent the screenshot of his message with my return request. Thank goodness i did not send paypal f&f. I had read a few horror stories about purchasing cues with paypal f&f on AZ so i stayed away from that. I did it credit card via paypall through ebay. It looks like he accepted the return tho and ebay just sent me the return postage. Hopefully it goes smoothly. One day ill find a 3k7 to purchase.
Thanks again for you comments and help!
 
Bterry said:
Yup. He lied to me. I sent the screenshot of his message with my return request. Thank goodness i did not send paypal f&f. I had read a few horror stories about purchasing cues with paypal f&f on AZ so i stayed away from that. I did it credit card via paypall through ebay. It looks like he accepted the return tho and ebay just sent me the return postage. Hopefully it goes smoothly. One day ill find a 3k7 to purchase.
Thanks again for you comments and help!
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They are not super difficult to find. If you have FB join the predator cue group. I asked around for a panthera cue that only 100 were made and found three of them. Good call on no friends or family, never do that
 
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