Dennis Orcullo banned from USA for five years

I can see it now. Your an athlete? Yes. I play professional pool.
( The room erupts in laughter)
Ok buddy

Seriously though Osama got us good with the Patriot act.
 
jay helfert said:
He was told that he was singled out for all the time he had been spending in the USA during the last ten years, more than six months per year. They wanted to know more about what he was doing here for so long, not accepting his poolplayer story. There is no way he should have been treated like this!
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if that's the case they were one google search away from the very obvious.
 
damn,
...there sure has been some power snooker plays put down lately,
sounds like a plan Jay.
 
sjm said:
That's what I'm greatly hoping for, too, but while getting into the UK Open and the World Pool Championship will be easy, getting the other European Matchroom events may not as simple, as they are all invitational.

We all know that Orcullo is as elite as it gets, and that he's clearly the best player in the Philippines. By Fargo, he's the number 4 player in the world right now, and that says a lot. Unfortunately, despite the fact that it's the best player rating system we've got in pool today, it is not Fargo rating that is used when it comes to invitational events.

The Predator League Championship pool, which has really good money and no entry fee, is an invitational which had nineteen players in its inaugural edition, and Matchroom has its own ranking system. As Dennis skipped all the Europe-based Matchroom events in 2021 including the World Pool Championship, his Matchroom ranking may not gain him entry, despite a third- place finish at the US Open, which is a Matchroom event. because his fellow Filippino Carlo Biado won the US Open and would, therefore, have a higher Matchroom ranking than Dennis.

I suspect the situation is exactly the same for the World Pool Masters, an invitational with twenty-four players, with one entry per country other than the host nation. Whether you go by Matchroom ranking or WPA ranking, Biado ranks higher than Orcullo at present.

The World Cup of Pool might also be tricky, as invitations may be based on WPA ranking.
Thirty-two teams of two players each are invited to that one. However, other than the host nation, each country gets just one team. WPA rankings have become somewhat ridiculous, as they don't protect those that opted to miss events due to COVID or COVID-related fears of international travel. At present, by WPA Ranking, Carlo Biado is the highest ranked Filippino by virtue of his win at the US Open and Roberto Gomez is ranked two spots higher than Dennis Orcullo, so even this invitation is uncertain.

I really hope Dennis has an advocate that can help him gain entry into the Predator LCP, the World Pool Masters and the World Cup of Pool, because we all know he's worthy of those invitations.

You may be on to something about action matches. Perhaps Dennis will be able to play some action matches in Europe with Americans who go there for major events. Americans tend to go to Asia only for the China Open and the All-Japan, but those might be other occasions during which action matches can be arranged. That's all to be determined.
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I’ve been to the all Japan before. Great tourney but a completely different atmosphere than any other tourney I’ve ever seen in America in the last 37 years. And as far as action ZERO. Also in general Japanese people do NOT like Filipinos. Try flying from Tokyo from Manila-even being a white boy American with a America passport it’s a disaster. There’s some “Asian” tension there to which I don’t know the whole back story-it’s not good. Japan is ZERO plan for denis in general. Sad
 
Fatboy said:
I’ve been to the all Japan before. Great tourney but a completely different atmosphere than any other tourney I’ve ever seen in America in the last 37 years. And as far as action ZERO. Also in general Japanese people do NOT like Filipinos. Try flying from Tokyo from Manila-even being a white boy American with a America passport it’s a disaster. There’s some “Asian” tension there to which I don’t know the whole back story-it’s not good. Japan is ZERO plan for denis in general. Sad
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The Japanese are not fond of Chinese or Koreans either.
 
Fatboy said:
I’ve been to the all Japan before. Great tourney but a completely different atmosphere than any other tourney I’ve ever seen in America in the last 37 years. And as far as action ZERO. Also in general Japanese people do NOT like Filipinos. Try flying from Tokyo from Manila-even being a white boy American with a America passport it’s a disaster. There’s some “Asian” tension there to which I don’t know the whole back story-it’s not good. Japan is ZERO plan for denis in general. Sad
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Antonio Lining had good action in Japan for a while . He had a sponsor there .
 
couldnthinkof01 said:
I can see it now. Your an athlete? Yes. I play professional pool.
( The room erupts in laughter)
Ok buddy

Seriously though Osama got us good with the Patriot act.
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Patriot Act? Has nothing to do with any of this. Don’t know where you guys get this stuff…

P-1 Visa is a special purpose Visa for athletes, artists and entertainers to enter the US for events, competitions, performances, etc. Only for folks at an internationally recognized level.

EB-1is somewhat similar but is for scientists & engineer types who posess very unique subject matter expertise. Usually PhD, post docs in very specialized fields/roles.

Both are very rare - complex, multi-stage application/review process that requires huge amounts of supporting paperwork & definitely takes a lawyer (typically a specialized legal team) to help navigate.

P-1 sounds appropriate for Dennis O, hopefully he can get good help to also appeal his current situation.

Jay, thx for the update & good luck on the P1 journey for Dennis. I have some background with getting someone an EB1 once about 10 yrs ago - was not fun, not quick, & not cheap, and that was with big corporate $$ legal/HR support team.

✌️
 
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rexus31 said:
The Japanese are not fond of Chinese or Koreans either.
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True

I don’t understand the story as to why. Then again I never understood racism. But that’s another topic, I’m not gonna discuss.

Denis is in a pickle but I have a feeling it will be resolved sooner than later

Best
Fatboy
 
phreaticus said:
Patriot Act? Has nothing to do with any of this. Don’t know where you guys get this stuff…

P-1 Visa is a special purpose Visa for athletes, artists and entertainers to enter the US for events, competitions or performance. Only for folks at an internationally recognized level.

E-1B is somewhat similar but is for scientists & engineers who posess very unique subject matter expertise. Usually PhD, post docs in very specialized fields/roles.

Both are very complex & rare - require huge amounts of supporting paperwork & definitely takes a lawyer (typically a specialized legal team) to help navigate.

P-1 sounds perfect for Dennis O, hopefully he can get good help to also appeal his current situation.

Jay, thx for update & good luck on the P1 journey for Dennis. I have some background with getting someone an E1-B, once about 10 yrs ago - was not fun, not quick, & not cheap, and that was with big corporate $$ legal support team.

✌️
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I should have quoted Jay. It was a joke on the TSA going through his phone.
 
Fatboy said:
True

I don’t understand the story as to why. Then again I never understood racism. But that’s another topic, I’m not gonna discuss.

Denis is in a pickle but I have a feeling it will be resolved sooner than later

Best
Fatboy
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It's not really racism . The Japanese people are just indifferent to other cultures.
As far as against Chinese and Koreans ( and the Filipinos and Burmese people ), they probably still have that guilt they can't express.
I don't know if they even teach their kids their history of atrocities in China, South Korea, the Philippines and Burma .
What Japan did during WW2 ( and before that in China ) to the nations they invaded was outright inhumane. They should thank the people who have moved on from their atrocities . My late uncle was not one of them . He hated them for what he saw in WW2.
 
Fatboy said:
I’ve been to the all Japan before. Great tourney but a completely different atmosphere than any other tourney I’ve ever seen in America in the last 37 years. And as far as action ZERO. Also in general Japanese people do NOT like Filipinos. Try flying from Tokyo from Manila-even being a white boy American with a America passport it’s a disaster. There’s some “Asian” tension there to which I don’t know the whole back story-it’s not good. Japan is ZERO plan for denis in general. Sad
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Lining spent a LOT of time in Japan, bit maybe he passes for part Japanese?
 
Fatboy said:
True

I don’t understand the story as to why. Then again I never understood racism. But that’s another topic, I’m not gonna discuss.

Denis is in a pickle but I have a feeling it will be resolved sooner than later

Best
Fatboy
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Its more like most Asian countries have deep seated resentments to Japanese. As to the story - well once there was this thing called WW2, where Japan pretty much raped & pillaged most of eastern Asia…

Having lived & worked for many years in multiple Asian countries, you are correct - some of the most vivid forms of racism & anti immigration policies can be found there. But its all over - for example, many folks don’t know that UAE doesn’t grant citizenship to any outsiders - even from other neighbor arab nations. Hell, a haole surfing in wrong spot in Hawaii can experience some nasty stuff.

The current woke racism nonsense in USA is a huge political/media/academia joke. Humans are tribal and we are scared of what/who we don’t know. Travel is the best education, and Americans have had it blessed to be able to freely roam the planet pretty easily. Unfortunately, new travel restrictions have become a super frustrating & depressing
problem.
 
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yes patriot act was george bush.

and coco. martha stewart didnt go to jail for securties she was dumb and lied to federal agents and went to jail for that felony. thats why every lawyer will tell you to never talk to someone that can put you in jail without consulting your lawyer.
plus they are allowed to lie to you about anything and if you lie to them it can be a felony.
 
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