The Simplest Aiming Systems to Visualize and Use

SpiderWebComm said:
Apologize? ROTFLMAO!

Stan has been playing and teaching probably for the number of years in your age and has an incredible record in both. That while working full time as a school teacher his entire working life. He KNOWS what a shot line is.
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Well he should explain it to you because you just said CTE has nothing to do with shot lines.

SpiderWebComm said:
Those two words in front have meaning when it comes to CTE and separates it from a "shot line". You didn't answer the question. What do the two words stand for and how does it apply?
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I already said it is the "No Imagination" shot line. It results magically from stepping the cue ball, which is looking at the edge and finding the new ccb out of your peripheral vision. Nobody has ever explained how this puts you on the shot line. I don't know why you are asking me all these questions because you've said many times you don't care how it works.

SpiderWebComm said:
Nope. You could NOT apply for a position in another engineering discipline and get hired. Prove me wrong.
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lol. Who ever made that claim?
 
SpiderWebComm said:
I mean there ARE a number of pro instructors with the PBIA who use it and a decent number of name pro players on tour that use it and TOP amateurs. Now thousands of all level pool players across the world are involved. Does that have zero impact? Are THEY stupid? What does it take for negative Nellies on this forum to just STFU and do their own thing without the moronic questions and backlash in trying to prove it's wrong when it works like a charm for those who are advanced with it?
Is it ever going to stop?
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No, they're not stupid, but they probably don't understand what Stan really thinks his CTE actually does. A lot of people are followers. If some instructor recommends it or some friend says it is good then they try it without thinking about it too much.

Not a single CTE user or instructor can show us how the method puts the player on the shot line without the player already knowing where the shot line is and when the shot looks right. The exceptions, of course, are when the method happens to coincide with the needed cut angle.

We can't help it if CTE die-hards take a hissy fit any time a little reality is injected into the conversation.
 
Dan White said:
OK, but it would be nice if Stan could tell us why any of this matters.
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Stan has outlined in great detail why it matters. The work he has put in to figure out how your eyes work in connection with CTE and aiming is second to none. He has spent countless hours figuring it all out.
 
Dan White said:
No, they're not stupid, but they probably don't understand what Stan really thinks his CTE actually does. A lot of people are followers. If some instructor recommends it or some friend says it is good then they try it without thinking about it too much.
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So, pro instructors who use it and pro players only do it because they're followers and can't make decisions for themselves and how it affects their earnings. They just do it according to the BRILLIANT Dan White, foremost authority on everything pool. They're followers.
Dan White said:
Not a single CTE user or instructor can show us how the method puts the player on the shot line (no such word in the system) without the player already knowing where the shot line (no such word in the system) is and when the shot looks right. The exceptions, of course, are when the method happens to coincide with the needed cut angle.
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Man, you really are CLUELESS! What a waste of time going back and forth with this crap for the millionth time. Please describe this shot line (NO SHOT LINES) you speak about and what it takes to look right. What alterations are done when it doesn't coincide with the needed cut angle. (which really doesn't exist). How do YOU know when it isn't right? Please explain the steps of linking CB to OB on any given shot with CTE and how you do it. WHAT DO YOU SEE AND DO?
Dan White said:
We can't help it if CTE die-hards take a hissy fit any time a little reality is injected into the conversation.
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You don't know what reality is if it was an Army tank running over you. I'll say it again, YOU REALLY ARE CLUELESS!
 
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SpiderWebComm said:
Oh no. Dan is special and one of my favorites. I wouldn't waste "bile" or anything else on you. You're way down on the totem pole. He gets treated differently from all the rest because he asks for it and deserves it. ;)
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See there you go again... "Wouldn't waste bile or anything on you". What have I done prior to your offence to me dubbing you Sir Asshat...? You betcha, nothing. However you continue to sling mud in my direction. Just a sign of your character. Not that you've asked for one, but can't imagine how you could possibly expect a civil conversation you can't muster a single post without making a single derogatory statement.
SpiderWebComm said:
Asshat doesn't sit too well with me and it will be remembered for the future. Fact is the same could be said about you. It seems like you're speaking out of both sides of your mouth. You say you're no more anti-CTE than you are anti-Jelly Bean. But then you turn right back around and say we share a difference in opinion. If it ISN'T anti-CTE or anything CTE related, what the hell is it where we share a difference in opinion? Enlighten me. I could care less what you do and use or anybody else on here.
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Confused... So do you want an answer, or couldn't care less if I make the effort to do so...? Talk about talking out of both sides of one's mouth...lol. Thus far,
SpiderWebComm said:
Now THAT is a true statement! Both methods work if played enough and correctly. So why do CTE players get attacked like they're total imbeciles by those who would get their asses stomped into the ground by a well-schooled CTE player?
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Hooray common ground... (y)

Based on your comments to me in this thread. I'm going to hazard a guess and say that some of it may just be in an effort to draw first blood...lol. Why do non-CTE players looking to make some comments on GB get attacked by CTE practitioners? I'll save the sweeping brush comments on their ability to play otherwise. Such is life in this dark corner of AZB I suppose.
SpiderWebComm said:
I mean there ARE a number of pro instructors with the PBIA who use it and a decent number of name pro players on tour that use it and TOP amateurs. Now thousands of all level pool players across the world are involved. Does that have zero impact? Are THEY stupid? What does it take for negative Nellies on this forum to just STFU and do their own thing without the moronic questions and backlash in trying to prove it's wrong when it works like a charm for those who are advanced with it?
Is it ever going to stop?
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Hey man... whatever works for them. I can say that so far within our exchange, you're the negative nelly.
 
The_JV said:
See there you go again... "Wouldn't waste bile or anything on you". What have I done prior to your offence to me dubbing you Sir Asshat...? You betcha, nothing. However you continue to sling mud in my direction. Just a sign of your character. Not that you've asked for one, but can't imagine how you could possibly expect a civil conversation you can't muster a single post without making a single derogatory statement.

Confused... So do you want an answer, or couldn't care less if I make the effort to do so...? Talk about talking out of both sides of one's mouth...lol. Thus far,

Hooray common ground... (y)

Based on your comments to me in this thread. I'm going to hazard a guess and say that some of it may just be in an effort to draw first blood...lol. Why do non-CTE players looking to make some comments on GB get attacked by CTE practitioners? I'll save the sweeping brush comments on their ability to play otherwise. Such is life in this dark corner of AZB I suppose.

Hey man... whatever works for them. I can say that so far within our exchange, you're the negative nelly.
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I'm not going to waste my time answering every one of your inane posts. YOU are in fact a complete waste of time with an overblown ego who loves being what you are. An _ _ _ _ _ _ _! If you want to know what negativity is, look in the mirror quickly before you fall in love with yourself. I won't post back to you anymore than I'd post back to AOC on a public forum. It would be complete loss of sanity on my part. But I will report you for stalking if you decide to keep it up and I think you will. Prove me right.
 
cookie man said:
So what’s your thought. Could using the inside half of the cb to align with the outside half of the OB from an offset position be a useful thing?
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What's the difference? Do you FEEL the shot or don't you? If you FEEL it it goes. How you become able to FEEL it makes no difference.
cookie man said:
If you don’t know what the offset position is then you really should just stop with any and all CTE discussion on your part.
But if you’d like to actually try then start by standing behind the inside edge of the cb in relation to the cut as opposed to being a noser. And for clarification being a noser is not a bad thing if that’s the way you prefer to aim.
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Cookie my man... You do realize that if you become 100% efficient with CTE, memorize 432 pages, then HAMB with the system so you actually know it and can FEEL it... We're talking certified PRO CTE Instructor level, listed on the website...

I (and any shooters) can also FEEL the same damn shot. There is one shot that makes the balls do what you want and it isn't CTE or any other system that does it. You either hit enough balls to FEEL it or you don't. CTE will claim to give you "the one" answer.

Here's the benefit of CTE. You're doubting your ability to make a shot. CTE gives you something to believe in. Silence the doubting inner voice and you can shoot. CTE is nothing more than keeping your brain occupied with busywork so you don't sabotage yourself. Pool is at least 90% mental.

See the shot. FEEL the shot. Shoot the shot. You can reduce this thought further by saying FEEL the shot. You either FEEL it or you don't. Examine this closely and you will find it to be true.
 
The_JV said:
I'm not even curious what you're scratching your chin over. Put the asshat on ignore after my last post. Nothing worth reading so why bother getting the notifications...lol
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JV, you only win the game if you get him to put you on IGNORE. ;)
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boogieman said:
JV, you only win the game if you get him to put you on IGNORE. ;)
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lol ya I suppose.... Thing is, I'm not looking to win. Just converse with the like minded. Sir Asshat just wants to bicker and sling mud.

I have found that since I took on a supervisory role at work that I'm already up to my chin in speaking civilly to adult children. AZB is supposed to be a distraction. Not more of the same. I'm paid to deal with the irrational whining at work.
 
cookie man said:
I’d love to hear you explain this opinion detail.
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What's to explain? Take the example of manual pivoting because it is more easily understood. If you line up cte and eta and then pivot outside this will create a particular angle whether you think so or not. If the pocket is in the right spot the shot will go. Also, isn't an eta with an inside pivot a straight in shot? If the balls happen to line up straight to the pocket then the shot is on. What if the balls are lined up to the pocket corner instead? Then you need the eta inside pivot with a little subconscious tweak.
 
Dan White said:
What's to explain? Take the example of manual pivoting because it is more easily understood. If you line up cte and eta and then pivot outside this will create a particular angle whether you think so or not. If the pocket is in the right spot the shot will go. Also, isn't an eta with an inside pivot a straight in shot? If the balls happen to line up straight to the pocket then the shot is on. What if the balls are lined up to the pocket corner instead? Then you need the eta inside pivot with a little subconscious tweak.
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Wow. Just wow. If this is the extent of your CTE experience and knowledge then it’s no wonder you argue against it. However you are so very totally wrong. ETA with an inside pivot can be a straight in shot. It could also provide the answer for multiple other angles and a few bank shots without any subconscious tweak. ETA will always cross the OB in a unique spot for each ball position, but you quite obviously don’t get or except that.
 
Dan White said:
What's to explain? Take the example of manual pivoting because it is more easily understood. If you line up cte and eta and then pivot outside this will create a particular angle whether you think so or not. If the pocket is in the right spot the shot will go. Also, isn't an eta with an inside pivot a straight in shot? If the balls happen to line up straight to the pocket then the shot is on. What if the balls are lined up to the pocket corner instead? Then you need the eta inside pivot with a little subconscious tweak.
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What angle do you think etb with an inside pivot creates? How about etc? How about outside pivots on each one?
 
boogieman said:
What's the difference? Do you FEEL the shot or don't you? If you FEEL it it goes. How you become able to FEEL it makes no difference.

Cookie my man... You do realize that if you become 100% efficient with CTE, memorize 432 pages, then HAMB with the system so you actually know it and can FEEL it... We're talking certified PRO CTE Instructor level, listed on the website...

I (and any shooters) can also FEEL the same damn shot. There is one shot that makes the balls do what you want and it isn't CTE or any other system that does it. You either hit enough balls to FEEL it or you don't. CTE will claim to give you "the one" answer.

Here's the benefit of CTE. You're doubting your ability to make a shot. CTE gives you something to believe in. Silence the doubting inner voice and you can shoot. CTE is nothing more than keeping your brain occupied with busywork so you don't sabotage yourself. Pool is at least 90% mental.

See the shot. FEEL the shot. Shoot the shot. You can reduce this thought further by saying FEEL the shot. You either FEEL it or you don't. Examine this closely and you will find it to be true.
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Boogieman, be free to feel the shot all you like, I really don’t care if that’s what you want to do. I prefer to SEE the shot using what in my opinion is the system that provides the most extensive and complete visual knowledge necessary to play pool. CTE for me all the way

If you aren’t feeling the shots very well on a particular day, what adjustments do you then make?
 
The_JV said:
lol ya I suppose.... Thing is, I'm not looking to win. Just converse with the like minded. Sir Asshat just wants to bicker and sling mud.

I have found that since I took on a supervisory role at work that I'm already up to my chin in speaking civilly to adult children. AZB is supposed to be a distraction. Not more of the same. I'm paid to deal with the irrational whining at work.
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If you want to converse with the like minded, then why post in CTE threads?
 
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