Carbon Fiber Shafts should be Banned
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Ignorant about all things pool.
I actually don't like the look of CF as I'm playing with it. Maybe that just a matter of the 'different' element in my field of view than anything else. I'm admittingly a tad old school so that's probably just bias.
Maybe I'm just one of those fools that keeps things too clean, but I haven't felt any smooth-ness advantage to CF over my wooden players. I don't use a glove either. Is there a perceiveable difference between CF and wood when wearing a glove...? I don't doubt for a moment that wooden shafts can warp over time, but I have never experienced such a thing other than on my 1 pc "house cues". I'm just lucky I suppose...
MajorMiscue
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I do use a glove. Here in the tropics it's a glove, hand chalk or talcum powder. I don't like the mess. I used to shoot a larger shaft as well, 12.75 or 13mm. When I went to a smaller diameter the glove helped the transition. Then I changed to CF 12.25mm and with a glove the shaft is incredibly slick, no resistance. I own a McDermott Defy Cf. It has some sort of coating that makes it like glass but I much prefer the raw CF. It's a matter of preference. Some like maple and maintenance. some prefer CF. No reason for banning CF.
You’re actually the one struggling, bub. I have said it’s all about tip material, not equipment. I will spell it out in crayon for you, so you can understand. I can take your $1000 carbon fibre, specially designed “jump cue”, put a soft leather tip on it, and it will jump like a turd. I can then cut a house cue down to 40 from the tip, install a phenolic tip, and it will outjump the special technologically advanced cue. So, I’ll make this crystal clear so you can understand. This is akin to a pitcher being able to put on a throwing glove that allows him to throw a ball 20mph faster with the same effort as throwing slower. But if he takes the glove off, his pitching speed drops back to normal. Tell me, does he have skill, or does he have an aid?
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Problem identified. You are trying to play as it was done 30 years ago. Step into the 21st century.
Minnesota Phat
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Doesn't a shaft that provides low deflection and great english make the game easier? I mean, high-horsepower engines can make automobile racing more difficult, if you're used to driving a 4-cylinder Toyota, but I woudn't say that high-horsepower engines make racing harder.
If you like the look and feel of CF, that's fair enough. Maybe something will emerge like a high-tech league and a traditional league, or something of that nature.
Or maybe I'll just take up snooker, move to England, and bring cookies. I hear they like cookies there.
Some people believed you were going to stop contributing to this thread 3 pages ago too.
he doesnt want to
MajorMiscue
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It is a matter of adjustment. anyone who has transitioned from a regular maple shaft to a low deflection shaft will tell you that it takes time to adjust Some will say that low deflection isn't worth the adjustment phase.
CF and a good tip really show you when you are imparting any side spin that you didn't intend. I had to bring my English in by a full tip, sometimes more and hitting a shot intended to be center ball had better be center ball or you will throw the OB.
Not better, different and requiring adjustment and concentration.
MajorMiscue
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I prefer the game as envisioned in 1770 (as long as I can use my CF shaft). If it would eliminate jump cues I would give up my carbon fiber.
MajorMiscue
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And carbon fiber pitcher's mound bunkers or maybe the pitcher gets a Captain America shield, Ball hits the center, batter's out.
Its because the marketing around pool keeps me ignorant.
Self education in pool, what does that mean to you?
MajorMiscue
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Yeah, the rest of us lettered on the High School pool team, went to college on a pool scholarship and apprenticed under Earl and Efren.
I was the Class Champion of the parking lot smoking team and attended the University of Big John's Billiards. Unfortunately, we didn't have a union so I didn't apprentice under anyone
Reading a book whilst swimming?
Major just took my spot but I don’t feel like quoting justnum.
Also, reading a book is really just staring at dead trees and hallucinating.
How many jump cue debates can happen in one year? Unknown. How many balls can I make in a row without missing? Known.
You hit the white ball into the rail and then into the object ball, or you jump over the obstructing ball(s) depending on the situation. There’s always the hyperbolic response that everyone just goes straight for the jump cue. I’m decent with the thing but I hate it. It often gets you in more trouble. But it’s around n shit, so I’ll bang it into the CB sometimes.
Major just took my spot but I don’t feel like quoting justnum.
Also, reading a book is really just staring at dead trees and hallucinating.
How many jump cue debates can happen in one year? Unknown. How many balls can I make in a row without missing? Known.
You hit the white ball into the rail and then into the object ball, or you jump over the obstructing ball(s) depending on the situation. There’s always the hyperbolic response that everyone just goes straight for the jump cue. I’m decent with the thing but I hate it. It often gets you in more trouble. But it’s around n shit, so I’ll bang it into the CB sometimes.
Hard disagree. Technological improvements are a big part of how we humans have evolved as a species and rose to a top. If we had this sort of mentality throughout the ages, we would still have animals pulling carts on misshapen wheels or is that going too far against the tradition of running? Honestly, this type of perspective is reminiscent of an old man yelling angrily on the porch of how pop isn't music.
I can teach somebody to make a simple one rail kick in one minute. So what?
Hopping over a ball is not competent “jumping“.
Take some time and learn to do it well, or don’t. But don’t hate those who can, when you cannot.
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Minnesota Phat
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There must be some incredible players here, if y'all think that jump shots are easy.
I think I've maybe seen someone pocket a legal jump shot against me in a game once in my life. I've made a few successful jump shots in games, but not many, and I usually end up with bad shape when I make them. On Monday I did make one beautiful jump shot all cramped up in the corner of the table... and I managed to get both the object ball and the cue ball to go in the same pocket. :/
When I practice jump shots, even more experienced players have asked me how I do it. I'm not great at pool, but I sometimes watch people who are very good at it, and a successful jump shot is a rare thing to see.
I'd pay good money to watch the debaters here attempt jump shots in games that have a little money riding on them.
I wonder what the success rate is on jump shots for professional players...
I think I've maybe seen someone pocket a legal jump shot against me in a game once in my life. I've made a few successful jump shots in games, but not many, and I usually end up with bad shape when I make them. On Monday I did make one beautiful jump shot all cramped up in the corner of the table... and I managed to get both the object ball and the cue ball to go in the same pocket. :/
When I practice jump shots, even more experienced players have asked me how I do it. I'm not great at pool, but I sometimes watch people who are very good at it, and a successful jump shot is a rare thing to see.
I'd pay good money to watch the debaters here attempt jump shots in games that have a little money riding on them.
I wonder what the success rate is on jump shots for professional players...