Clash Steel Pro Tables?

Some comments here about balls going off pool tables that have thick slate has me wondering why.

On 3 cushion tables it is very rare to see a ball leave the table surface. I can't recall seeing that ever. So, is it due to the 3 cushion balls being heavier? If so how much heavier are they?

I always knew they were heavier but never considered it and honestly don't know myself..

I do miss playing 3 cushion and Chris's is one very special pool hall!

I just googled it. Pool balls are 6 ounces and carom balls are 7.5 ounces. Give or take..
 
couldnthinkof01 said:
Might be thinking of a Gabriel. They have huge pockets that hold most if not all 15.
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If you hit the website specs I linked to the original post above, apparently the Clash Pro tables use Gabriel pockets, they hold 15 balls. The pockets/castings are unique & look to be a very nice design - they are what originally caught my eye and got me curious about this brand table.

Here’s a pic from the Clash website:

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phreaticus said:
If you hit the website specs I linked to the original post above, apparently the Clash Pro tables use Gabriel pockets, they hold 15 balls. The pockets/castings are unique & look to be a very nice design - they are what originally caught my eye and got me curious about this brand table.

Here’s a pic from the Clash website:

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Learn something new everyday. Thanks for that.
 
Only the 9' Diamond 3 piece tables are 30mm. The 8' comes with 25mm even though their web site says 30mm. When I got my 8' Professional 2 years ago, I noticed that the slate was only 1" thick and questioned it. They said only comes in 1" on under 9' tables. Called Diamond on it the next day and they said the web site must have a mistake as only 9' tables were 30mm and they would correct the web site. It's been over 2 years and they haven't done anything to correct it. They also state 4 rail bolts, not so, only 3 on under 9' tables. Is it a mistake, or is it intentional deception, only Diamond knows that.
 
trentfromtoledo said:
Why do you think that? Just wondering what your opinion is based on?

TFT
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sure, so obviously we don't have much data on this,
subjectively speaking, simply many years of experience playing different tables

If I were to make an attempt at specificity, I would suggest it minimizes leveling issues and other slate issues too particularly from poor installers
 
CanadianGuy said:
sure, so obviously we don't have much data on this,
subjectively speaking, simply many years of experience playing different tables

If I were to make an attempt at specificity, I would suggest it minimizes leveling issues and other slate issues too particularly from poor installers
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The reason I asked is this: Diamond is the only company that I know of that has a leveling system that will literally bend the slate if it has flaws.

TFT
 
phreaticus said:
If you hit the website specs I linked to the original post above, apparently the Clash Pro tables use Gabriel pockets, they hold 15 balls. The pockets/castings are unique & look to be a very nice design - they are what originally caught my eye and got me curious about this brand table.

Here’s a pic from the Clash website:

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The pic makes me wonder, what they were thinking and why they thought it was necessary? Not that it's good or bad just seems odd in a way..
Interesting nonetheless...
 
Sometimes practicing I will set up a shot that I am strugling with and shoot twords one corner pocket. Never really paid attention to how many balls fit in one corner pocket of my Diamond professional, but it's quite a few. I do know that if I try to shoot all in one corner, I have to shoot a few into the other side. Not sure what the rest of the table looks like, but the picture over the corner pocket looks really nice.
 
muskyed said:
Sometimes practicing I will set up a shot that I am strugling with and shoot twords one corner pocket. Never really paid attention to how many balls fit in one corner pocket of my Diamond professional, but it's quite a few. I do know that if I try to shoot all in one corner, I have to shoot a few into the other side. Not sure what the rest of the table looks like, but the picture over the corner pocket looks really nice.
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It looks like they continued the diamonds to the corner pocket.
 
jtompilot said:
It looks like they continued the diamonds to the corner pocket.
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Nah. That would require two sights for each corner pocket, one even with the nose of the end cushion and one even with the nose of the side cushion (i.e., on a 9-footer, 12½" from the neighboring sights on the end and side cushions). In that Clash table picture, it doesn't look like any of the 4 "pseudo sights" are in those positions.
 
Patrick Johnson said:
Could be… there are several, and I’m pretty sure most are Verhoevens.

pj
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Your correct Pat. It has always been a mix but the Verhoevens are predominant. Do you know who is running it now? Buddy had an uneasy partnership as I recall.. Sad he passed after finally taking over... So many of Chicago's icons of pool have been lost in the last ten years.
 
Quesports said:
Your correct Pat. It has always been a mix but the Verhoevens are predominant. Do you know who is running it now? Buddy had an uneasy partnership as I recall.. Sad he passed after finally taking over... So many of Chicago's icons of pool have been lost in the last ten years.
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I don't get there as much now, but last I knew Paul Navarette, a good pool and 3C player who has been a fixture there for decades, was managing, maybe part owning.

pj
chgo
 
Patrick Johnson said:
I don't get there as much now, but last I knew Paul Navarette, a good pool and 3C player who has been a fixture there for decades, was managing, maybe part owning.

pj
chgo
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I knew Paul pretty well when I lived there. He is a good guy and would be a good choice. All the regulars know him and like him. I hope Adrian Viguera is back as well he is one hell of a nice guy... Glad to hear it is still open times have been rough the last two years.. Take care. If I get back up I will look you up...

The original partner to Buddy was in for a minor share and was a PITA to Buddy. Perhaps after Buddy passed he was bought out.
 
ChrisinNC said:
There are some issues with 2 inch late that you have to adapt to. If not used to it, you may often fly the cue ball off the table on break shots. As the slate is much denser, when you hit down on the cue ball at all the cue ball will go airborne, which is also why it takes getting used to hitting jump shots without over-hitting them and sending the cue ball airborne farther than necessary, and when it lands the first time, it just bounces again, often off the table.
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Ok, I need the good Dr Dave or someone else to help explain to me why it jumps off more on a thicker slate?
 
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