Pool fads?
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I'll bet you $100 that in 3 years people will still be using those as much as now. I have been around a bunch of players almost since they started playing maybe a year ago, at least 4 of them have swapped to CF shafts and several others I know have done so in the past few months. None of them went back to the old shafts they were using. Considering that even small scale custom cuemakers are now building CF shafts due to the demand for them, years after they were introduced shows them as more than just a fad.
tomatoshooter
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There are enough guys playing with wood that I think wood will always have a place, but CF has real benefits and is definitely here to stay. I don't think I've seen any pros using Kielwood but it seems like most of the pros are shooting Predator and I don't think they have a Kielwood product.
tomatoshooter
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I like your idea. If you are streaming you are putting a visual product out there and the dress code can be an improvement. It also gives the event a little more gravitas.
justin bergman does, i think.
many players have used CF shafts and gone back to maple................ I am one of them.........................
CF shafts are just a fad................ they play differently and not better................. it's all in the entrepreneurship
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tomatoshooter
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I think the main advantages of CF are the durability and stability. I'm sure there's a maple shaft that shoots as well as my CF but I haven't found it. I have 314-3 that is low deflection but I can't get that pinpoint accuracy when I need it. I have a V-Pro conventional maple shaft that has the accuracy but more deflection when I use heavy English. And I have the Siege carbon fiber that give me the pinpoint accuracy and low deflection. I don't know how much accuracy is due to the stiffer shaft, I seemed to have better luck curving the cue ball with the more flexible 314-3.
I don't think carbon is going away, nor do I think it will replace maple, but it is a good option.
i did a deflection test the other day with my ancient predator z-shaft and my buddys revo 12.4 and we both concluded the z-shaft had if not lower deflection then atleast as low.
accuracy, and "shoots as well", is an altogether other matter of course and one that is hard to ascribe to your pool shaft. unless you mean cut shots with english and other shots where deflection plays a part, but then once again it's deflection.
if i was tutoring a rookie today i wouldn't recommend CF over the premium LD shafts. it's just not the game changer that LD was.
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Cyclop balls had some really significant quality problems early on. Balls literally cracked in half.
Fads are things that go away. Those shafts are here to stay whether you luddites like it or not.
Long time ago and only in one or two runs. Problem was fixed and done with.
MurrayNevada
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CF shafts are becoming increasingly popular at youth tournaments. They will determine the future of CF shafts, not us.
People that play with standard higher deflection shafts don't like carbon fiber shafts, those that use LD shaft for the most parts stick with the CF shafts. However they are not a fad at all, you will see players using and buying them long into the future. It won't go away, it's a shift in construction that is here to stay. I do agree they don't play "better" that is all personal preference with how the player likes to aim and feel of the cue, I don't think anyone past the marketing people ever said they "played better" since that has almost no meaning except to the person using the cue.
I’ll actually be surprised if non CF shafts aren’t considered a “fad” in about 10-20 more years.
Watched people say LD wood shafts were a gimmick and wouldn’t last. I expect this to be no different.
Another 20 years and seeing someone with a regular maple shaft will be like seeing a pay phone.
Watched people say LD wood shafts were a gimmick and wouldn’t last. I expect this to be no different.
Another 20 years and seeing someone with a regular maple shaft will be like seeing a pay phone.
A more fair comparison would be an 11.8 revo and a Z shaft.
IMO, the allure for the 12.4 revo is you get the low deflection that in years past required a sub 12mm shaft. Now you get it with a 12.4 which is good for those who preferred 12mm +
As far as someone new, I would universally recommend CF. Not for “game changing” deflection, but for the worry free maintenance.
I’m sure all of us have known that terrible feeling of dinging your favorite/main maple shaft. Along with it slowly turning into a pencil after years of cleaning and burnishing.
CF is worth it just not dealing with that.
Kenneff Dupriest
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I remember when people didn't sandbag on purpose.
tomatoshooter
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I mean that I couldn't cinch shots with the 314 hitting center ball. No sidespin. Deflection is not a factor. I could move the cue ball well with it but, especially on a big table with tight pockets, I could not reliably pocket balls. On a smaller table with more forgiving pockets the ease of playing position with the 314 could overcome the loss of accuracy. I haven't tried other wood low deflection shafts and don't know if I just need a stiffer shaft to shoot more accurately or if something is wrong with my 314. I will try a couple
I agree CF is not a game changer, and the price tag is very steep for someone new to the game.
That's really where I see the advantage. I seem to shoot better with a stiffer shaft in my very limited comparison, I don't know whether or not an LD maple shaft would gives up too much stiffness. Or maybe another characteristic of my 314 doesn't work with my technique. I don't have much need for another cue at the moment, I'll probably try something with a wood LD shaft.
And where? 