14.1 beginner breaking

justnum

justnum

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I gave up chasing pro style 14.1 breaks.

I am having a lot more fun identifying amateur 14.1 break shots. The standard 141 runout breakshot is a tough reach and stroke. To lower the standard there are two approaches move the cue ball closer to the breakball or use a bridge to avoid unwanted leans during stroke.

If further developments arise the I will post here.
 
justnum said:
I gave up chasing pro style 14.1 breaks.

I am having a lot more fun identifying amateur 14.1 break shots. The standard 141 runout breakshot is a tough reach and stroke. To lower the standard there are two approaches move the cue ball closer to the breakball or use a bridge to avoid unwanted leans during stroke.

If further developments arise the I will post here.
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Make a Video of your Super Break, might be educational, or good for a laugh.🥳
 
Aiming for the 14.1 breakshot has become automatic for top pros.

For the beginners navigating the contact point on the breaking ball is not easy.

Lazy players will stay in the cueball POV and not appreciate the OB to pocket POV.

The OB is not in the direction of the CB vanishing point. This is a teachable moment and students can spend a lot of time learning how to see around corners properly.

Use the diagram below to identify the expansion field from the OB to the pocket.

Vanishing points are easy to agree on, expansion points are easier to misread.

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measureman said:
What in hell are you talking about?
Half your posts make no sense,are you really a pool player or a wanna be?
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When aiming along the green line to play a breakshot I want CB control.
The setup is standard for the traditional 141 break.
After empirical review the OB has highly accurate path lines and path lines that vary much more.
The red region indicates is what I call seeing around the corner.

I call it seeing around the corner because the OB and CB will be approaching the limit of contact or intersection.
The precision of a pool player in the red region is way more indicative of their ability to shoot straight at a target.

I am not a pool player anymore. I am a pool investigator. This singularity in the breakshot is mathematically significant.

In recent pool practice I have adopted the method of steepest descent to map out path lines.
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Red region should be named after someone whose last name starts with R.

The limit of the red region is when contact between CB and OB is just about to explode.

The closer a player can strike the CB and OB at the thinnest intersection point, is the highest indicator of how straight a player shoots.
Today's measurement and recording systems can clearly identify players shooting at 99.99% straight accuracy. Any straighter and they blow up.

That is why 14.1 is called straight pool.

Very different skill than playing 15 rails and position, that is powerlifting.
 
justnum said:
Red region should be named after someone whose last name starts with R.

The limit of the red region is when contact between CB and OB is just about to explode.

The closer a player can strike the CB and OB at the thinnest intersection point, is the highest indicator of how straight a player shoots.
Today's measurement and recording systems can clearly identify players shooting at 99.99% straight accuracy. Any straighter and they blow up.

That is why 14.1 is called straight pool.

Very different skill than playing 15 rails and position, that is powerlifting.
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Is there intelligent life where you live, or came from,
 
CocoboloCowboy said:
Is there intelligent life where you live, or came from,
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I might have to take a break from the forum.

Documented these thoughts on a pool forum seemed best, for when intelligent life discovers it.

Hopefully it doesn't get buried under all the garbage.

A computer would never try to shoot from such bad position, but a bad position is the best way to measure shooter straightness. There are other ways but this one promotes 141 the best.
 
justnum said:
I might have to take a break from the forum.

Documented these thoughts on a pool forum seemed best, for when intelligent life discovers it.

Hopefully it doesn't get buried under all the garbage.

A computer would never try to shoot from such bad position, but a bad position is the best way to measure shooter straightness. There are other ways but this one promotes 141 the best.
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Please dont,your posts are so goofy they are entertaining in a weird way.
 
The test of straightness is what the shot can be called. I don't know is gaydar more appropriate.
 
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justnum said:
The closer a player can strike the CB and OB at the thinnest intersection point, is the highest indicator of how straight a player shoots.
Today's measurement and recording systems can clearly identify players shooting at 99.99% straight accuracy. Any straighter and they blow up.
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justnum said:
That is why 14.1 is called straight pool.
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yea, I don't think that's why
 
Practice the bridge exclusively breaking 14.1 racks. It is a great exercise for controlled striking.
The excitement with practicing with the bridge is the change of reference from aiming close up to the cueball to aiming at least a bridges length distance from the cueball. The theory of the breakshot concerns distributing enough power to control OB and create a new table layout by breaking the rack. Its an abstract concept in mathematics. Whoever designed the game of billiards with 6 pockets has modeled quite a bit.

Its unfortunate the rest of the pool community did not inherit the same gifts of thought as its creators.

If there are any working mathematicians you might consider it as a problem where the optimal power distribution of the cue ball to the object ball and the rack is a delta function. If anyone likes to smash, let's talk. I am open. That is a math joke about particle smashing.
 
Renegade_56 said:
pretty sure most here know what I meant
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Your up to bat.

State optimal solution for pocketing on 14.1 breakshot below. Describe your process. Three balls must be pocketed simultaneously or not. No cheating.

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justnum said:
Your up to bat.

State optimal solution for pocketing on 14.1 breakshot below. Describe your process. Three balls must be pocketed simultaneously or not. No cheating.

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Well a couple things are immediately noticeable here,

1) you don't have to make 3 balls, or even call 3 balls if you do
2) that far corner ball is certainly not a dead ball in the corner
3) that rack of balls is about a ball and a half off of the spot.

Do you even play Straight Pool?
 
Renegade_56 said:
Well a couple things are immediately noticeable here,

1) you don't have to make 3 balls, or even call 3 balls if you do
2) that far corner ball is certainly not a dead ball in the corner
3) that rack of balls is about a ball and a half off of the spot.

Do you even play Straight Pool?
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Not well, but I like studying breakshots.
Taking away the achievement by reasoning its unnecessary is lacking of motivation.

I play straight pool. I don't waste my time ignoring well designed shots. There is a lot to appreciate in the rules.

You just need to read between the lines. I am practicing right now, Straight Pool.

I converted a space into my now Pool Room Cyber Station. Call it cybertron for short. It has all the fixings minus the classified technology.
 
Straightness test an acute angle shot from close up. Great breakshot to practice vanishing point strength.


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