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at that price, is a bit overkill and largely unwarranted for use in pool leagues, like APA, BCA, etc. The
reference to 9 ft. tables illustrates the change taking place in pool wherein 9 ft.used to be more popular.
Nowadays, that’s no longer the case, although there’s bound to be some local exceptions but 7’ is the
trend today. More tables fit where 9 ft. tables were previously used & pool leagues virtually rely on them.
I recall a time when Az was the showcase for custom cue sales but social media has changed everything.
I think, at least I inferred from the post, that a $3000 RB custom made cue, which it would have been
at that price, is a bit overkill and largely unwarranted for use in pool leagues, like APA, BCA, etc. The
reference to 9 ft. tables illustrates the change taking place in pool wherein 9 ft.used to be more popular.
Nowadays, that’s no longer the case, although there’s bound to be some local exceptions but 7’ is the
trend today. More tables fit where 9 ft. tables were previously used & pool leagues virtually rely on them.
I recall a time when Az was the showcase for custom cue sales but social media has changed everything.
Well, for years and years I always kept one or two "bar cues" outside my custom cue collection. I never brought my customs to any 7 foot bar setting- for many reasons that should be obvious. So it is just that, today, billiard rooms that were at one time more spacious, etc. have begun to resemble bar table settings of yesteryear. To me, personally, it just feels like overkill using high end -, often ivory laden, etc, cues in this new pool environment. Part of this is just in my head, agreed, but I know a lot of guys with customs like me who just don't like using them on the 7 footers, just does not feel like those small tables do justice to the playability of those cues- among many other factors related to small pool table environments.
Seller lists, sets price, terms, buyer either buys, or maybe offer what they are willing to give.
Had a nice Cue decide not to play with because it was to nice to take out of house.
Had a listing here, and on eBay for while.
eBay produced nothin but low offered and justification for Mask n Gun prices. ROBBERY.
One buyer was hemorrhoid. He kept making 40-50% offers, with many words of justification..
Finally someone saw value paid what he paid. We came to agreement on price, shipping, etc.
Sometimes you need right buyer, who has money, not 10 Players SPs for trade.
Had a nice Cue decide not to play with because it was to nice to take out of house.
Had a listing here, and on eBay for while.
eBay produced nothin but low offered and justification for Mask n Gun prices. ROBBERY.
One buyer was hemorrhoid. He kept making 40-50% offers, with many words of justification..
Finally someone saw value paid what he paid. We came to agreement on price, shipping, etc.
Sometimes you need right buyer, who has money, not 10 Players SPs for trade.
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WTF does this mean???? You lost me with all the wording.
Reread hope you get point. Plus market is soft.
Cost is certainly a factor when building a cue and that has to translate to the bottom for anyone making a living as a cue builder.
I build cues as a hobby. But I’ve seen an increase in basic stuff like drill bits and sandpaper etc. Not to mention the cost to stabilize or purchase stabilized wood. Coring cost. Basic maple blanks are pricier.
As mentioned earlier demand decreases even with financially stable buyers. The cost of vehicles is outrageous. Most high end buyers are going to have a nice vehicle before they drop 3k on a cue.
A regular trip to the grocer typically runs me 220. That’s now running me a bit over 300.
Crap just adds up all over the place.
I build cues as a hobby. But I’ve seen an increase in basic stuff like drill bits and sandpaper etc. Not to mention the cost to stabilize or purchase stabilized wood. Coring cost. Basic maple blanks are pricier.
As mentioned earlier demand decreases even with financially stable buyers. The cost of vehicles is outrageous. Most high end buyers are going to have a nice vehicle before they drop 3k on a cue.
A regular trip to the grocer typically runs me 220. That’s now running me a bit over 300.
Crap just adds up all over the place.
Everything is & has become more expensive.
Remember in 1970 I was paying 19.9 Cents per gallon for regular gas.
Ethel was 2 Cents higher, that is what they call high octane gas. Ethel.
We ARE in an equity markets recession and a corporate earnings recession- Main Street recession will follow very soon unless the FED eases up on the interest rate gas pedal- which was a gas pedal hit too far too late to accelerate past the damage already done to bond and equity investors by the FEDS LACK of action while it was politically declaring the inflation marks as "transitory" buffered by the other Buffon politico head of treasury- Janet Yellen.
Do you think that the 60 to 75 year old crowd that has their retirement life savings in equity and bond markets is not feeling the 24% slide in the markets since 1/2022? I am one of them, and I am no longer in the cue market unless we see huge turn arounds- not happening soon, I am afraid to say. The old guard held up this cue market during the market rebound from 2010 to 2019 - pre covid. I was one of them- spending many thousands on cues during that time period.
And, YES, I agree with you, the fact that most of our U.S. 16 to 50 year olds show little interest in this game or the cue collecting hobby does not bode well for cue sales here.
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1968…..$0.28/gal……Sunoco 260…….I strictly ran my ‘68 Charger R/T (426 Hemi & 3.92 gears) using that fuel.
Raced NHRA Stock Class in New Jersey at Raceway Park. It was just a wonderful time for MOPAR muscle cars.
Absolutely correct! And, in the custom anything world of sales- the uber rich will always be buyers. However, most of the uber rich are not in the cue buying world at any time in their lives. So the cue sellers will find, right now, that inflation and stock and bond market bear markets are going to greatly hinder the possibility of sales to the very small sales audience that exists today.
Oh- one of my older brothers had the 1970 Challenger- it was a 440 with the 4 barrel carb.
I had regrets when Dodge brought out the 426 Hemi Dart. On the street, that was a killer combo.
Smart street racers were already using the big block 396 engines in Chevy Novas so Dodge had
to respond. And Chevy had the Z28 Camaro so MOPAR responded with the Plymouth Cuda and
Dodge Challenger. The heavier cars like GTO’s, 442’s, Malibu SS, Plymouth GTX & Roadrunner,
and Dodge Charger cars were at a significant weight disadvantage to the smaller muscle cars. I was
tempted to switch to 4.11 gears to compensate but I didn’t want to sacrifice my top end speed for the
impromptu highway races that happened whenever you’d spot any muscle car traveling your direction.
It was just a grand time & cars just dominated your leisure activities and occasionally won you some serious $.
thats interesting, i love that stuff, its cheap real good wood and real pretty, ive bought several cues with it. and i would agian
The truth... you are hitting two things.. a generational change in the billiard mindset and equipment technology changing. The generational change is basically there are fewer collectors that are "true" collectors. They max out at 5-10 cues, OR just collect certain cues, from certain maker(s). I won't blame the economy because this has been going on for a while. The previous generation of boomers and X'ers were collectors, Z's and millennials, not so much. So collecting habits have shifted. Also boomers are retiring either professionally or permanently, making collections available and just adding more options to the market. The equipment change is obviously the change in "performance" shafts. I believe this trend will continue until someone wins consistently with wood, which may not happen. We espouse the joy of collecting all cues and building diverse collections, not everyone is into doing that. So with a lot more available options, the buyer can sit back and find great buys leaving many cues to sit. Sometimes it is timing. I had a cue out 8 months ago, didn't get a look. I listed it last week and it sold in less than 2 hours.
Quality cues will always have a place.
Joe
Used to be, a dedicated reg. or ethel pump was the only choice (unless you burned kerosene), until the Sunoco ‘dial-your-octane’ system arrived.
I still remember the 50s ‘gas war’ days, when competing stations briefly lowered the price-per-gal. to single digits, so a dollar bill would fill your tank! Now, a fill-up costs more than I paid for my first car.
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