Backhand Aiming

[MajorMiscue]

Seems like

From observing the cue ball, not by mystic vision.

 

[bbb]

How do you think that physically works? Many players tighten their grip to increase acceleration.

pj
chgo

How do you think that physically works?

 

[Patrick Johnson]

How do you think that physically works?

“Tightening” the grip is often a natural part of a “wrist flick” where the hand’s fingers tend to pull the cue forward as they close around the cue, accentuating the wrist’s forward acceleration.

Your turn…

pj
chgo

 

[MajorMiscue]

hand’s fingers tend to pull the cue forward as they close around the cue

I'll need a little more about this phenomena. Since fingers of a relaxed hand point down and tightening would lift up I don't understand how that would translate to increased forward motion.

 

[bbb]

gri

“Tightening” the grip is often a natural part of a “wrist flick” where the hand’s fingers tend to pull the cue forward as they close around the cue, accentuating the wrist’s forward acceleration.

Your turn…

pj
chgo

gripping the cue locks the wrist inhibiting the flick and thus inhibiting the forward acceleration
your turn

 

[Patrick Johnson]

gripping the cue locks the wrist

No, it doesn't. You can clench your grip as tight as you want and still easily "flick" your wrist - it's a choice. Try it.

pj
chgo

 

[MajorMiscue]

the hand’s fingers tend to pull the cue forward as they close around the cue,

Try changing grip tension with the cue not in fore/aft motion. How far forward did the cue move? None at all, right? Just up.

 

[bbb]

No, it doesn't. You can clench your grip as tight as you want and still easily "flick" your wrist - it's a choice. Try it.

pj
chgo

I find it difficult to do both

 

[Patrick Johnson]

I find it difficult to do both

Maybe so with the stick in your hand and using a full-finger grip... then the stick doesn't want to tilt with your palm. But wrist-flick players cock their wrists back before the shot stroke, opening their fingers, then close them during the forward stroke, accentuating the forward motion of the wrist. Pinoy players, notably.

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chgo

 

[greyghost]

I'm not a physics expert but I can hear the vibration in my cue at impact with a loose grip. With a slightly tighter grip the cue is quiet. I don't know the scientific principle but it seems like I get more spin with the same effort with a looser grip (but maybe it's those 60s flashbacks...)

The quantity of vibration in the cue during impact changes from diff grip tensions and diff grip positions on the cues butt….

More vibration/more movement between the crest and trough of the wave on the cue is less energy transferred to the hit. The bending of the shaft during impact does not give the cb a trampoline effect like a baseball bat does to a baseball, there is much less time of contact bt cb and tip than bat/ball relatively speaking when taking into consideration impact speeds of a bat and ball vs a cue and cb.

For what its worth the COR of a baseball bat to ball is about .50. The COR of a pool sticks tip to the cb is about >.90. The cb has less deformation and more energy is transferred from the stick to the cb than a does to a baseball.

The only reason your getting more spin is your tip placement is more accurate and your acceleration is better that’s it….when sounds are heard and movement is felt then energy is being lost.

 

[RailKing85]

I don't agree with this. I think the tightness of the grip should not change much during the shot. A very loose grip has to be tightened at the end to keep the stick from leaving the hand. And it has to be tightened to play with force. There should be no daylight between the stick and the grip hand.

Also, any wrap that is not at least as sticky as a plain finish is a mistake because it forces you to grip tighter.

This is why I will never understand linen wraps aesthetically or functionally.