Pretty rich from the poster who has made more nasty comments and personal attacks than anybody on this thread.
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Alanis Morrisette wrote a song about that.
That train jumped the tracks midway through Harriman's original first post almost 3 years ago...not counting the 11 months of edits.
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I have written articles too, it doesn't make me an author.
And more importantly, why in the wide world of sports does it matter if they wrote articles? You are a piece of work. smh
In the world of science, if you can't explain what you are doing then you are being lucky.
Dan's articles are like snippets of how to be a champion. It feels like he is writing simple exercises and when he finishes it will be a great instructional manual on straight pool.
Post your articles ACL and share with the forum.
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Once again, you don't answer a direct question. I asked you what difference it made if they wrote articles or not. You also completely dismissed the fact that Mosconi authored a number of books and questioned his record again because 14.1 doesn't appear in the title when in reality (which you have no concept of) 14.1 wasn't a term used back then. Pool or pocket billiards referred to straight pool in most circumstances. Have you read any of them? Since you will dodge the question I will answer it for you: No you didn't.
The stuff I wrote is long gone. They were written for HVAC trade magazines before the internet and well before the world was 'graced' with your presence. Otherwise I would be happy to post them.
Back in the 50's & 60's we all knew it just as straight pool and that is still what I call it today. It
was the game back in that era and 9 ball got real popular late 60's on. When I gambled in the 60's/70's
it was races to 50 for $50.00. I was also a darn good bumper pool player at 10 yrs. old.
was the game back in that era and 9 ball got real popular late 60's on. When I gambled in the 60's/70's
it was races to 50 for $50.00. I was also a darn good bumper pool player at 10 yrs. old.
The following is from a 2008 edition of World Standardized rules.
14.1 was the championship game that replaced 15 ball in 1888. 8 ball invented in 1900. 9 ball in 1920. One pocket dates back to 1775.
The timeline shows straight pool was the new game on the block while scores of generations were brought up before the invention of straight pool. If straight pool didn't catch on it might have gone the way of Bonus Ball. History shows straight pool made it to the rulebook while bonus ball did not.
Your point about straight pool as synonymous with billiards is flat out wrong.
If you need a timeline to help understand the difference between a popular game and promotions for a new game, then wait until after 12noon. Some students learn better with pictures.
My interest in this thread is purely historical. Dan is a leading expert and writer on how 14.1 runs should be validated and the requirements to be an official high run record. If you are interested in the history of billiards and doing research that is worth discussing then let me know. I have research teams in various areas looking up non digital information. I can put you on team if you want to be official.
The copy editor for the 2008 world rules book is Fran Crimi and Robin Dahlen.
* The comment about the replacement of 15 ball in 1888 with 14.1 continuous pool conflicts with the line about Straight pool followed in 1910. There are some nuances in language and its unclear why.
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Read what I said again. I thought it was pretty clear when I said MOST CIRCUMSTANCES. Not only that, I never questioned how old it was or when it was invented. I was referring to YOUR post stating that Mosconi's books didn't reference 14.1 when in fact they did. The term 14.1 wasn't used back then nor was it used when I first started playing pool '80's and '90's. The game was known as straight pool.
I have done nothing to knock Jason, however I am not a fan of facebook pool records keeping - notice the weak sales of yer circus pockets dvd - as the public is still uncertain about why the facebook feed was lost - or whether or not it was 669 or 714 lol. It was Jason's choice to play in yer circus pocket soiree - so that is on him and he knew those pockets facings -were phony. I have "shortened the list" of promoters of 14.1 - that I think are genuine. As for weaker players teaching top pro's I think that is possible - particularly when the weak players have a strong association with some bureaucratic hall of fame group i.e. the bca. Yer and bobby's outfit is has no official pocket specs - and is not Legit, it makes sense that ya'll would choose put in with the bca.
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Yes and what year was that book written? 2008 when the game was more commonly known as 14.1.
Again, where is the standard for tables currently defined?
Where was that standard defined prior to Willie's 526?
If standards are so important, why were there no call for it prior to the new records?
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There you go using logic again
Why do internet feeds drop?
These guys, in my experience.
These guys, in my experience.
Have you read the book? Do you know what is in the book?
Or are you just going to yammer on all day pretending to know something?
Know what else doesn't matter in court? Strawman arguments...
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I saw ur pic with u giving Jason some lessons, u must really be a "big wig" in the bca pool school. I would say Jason listens to u cause u probly know someone in the hall of fame soiree dept. After reading this post from u - it amazes me that anyone with a lick of sense would take a Pocket Billiard lesson from u. U can document that - bca hill uh beans salesman.
The World Standardized Rulebook I have in front of me and am reading it. Mosconi's bio says it was a exhibition high run. That is different than John or Jaysons high run. A live stream or a recorded high run are not the same as an exhibition high run.
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