Don't sweat it. 90 percent of us understand why someone would wait. I've waited too long on actual real-life important things before. I don't really need a life coach to figure out I shouldn't continue to do such things.
Is Derby City capping entries this year?
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Some people just don't understand a person with priorities. Can't tell you how many times I've thrown my hat in the ring just to turn around closer to the date and cancel. Maybe if I didn't a have job, wife, kids and other areas of interest I would book trips to tournaments with reckless abandon years in advance. However if you're unsure that you might still be available months after paying for your spot, and there's no pressure to make such a deposit. The why the hell would you...?...., lol
The only down side I may never get to play events like Turningstone or the DCC
Appreciate the insight into the life of a traveling pro, D. Guys like you keep the sport alive, and hopefully more economically viable in the future for those with the skill, talent, and passion. Best of luck and play well!
They can’t.
The math wouldn’t pencil out. The buy back $ doesn’t go back into the prize pool. It’s a significant piece of the bottom line. It all falls right to the bottom line. Was a brilliant $ making idea. The Derby is a for-profit event. And great marketing for Diamond products.
What the Derby isn’t is a pro event or an old school Jansco brothers jamboree(even tho it resembles a modern version of that).
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Fatboy
There's another buyback format that is easy to schedule and would handle more matches. I showed it to Diamond. They chose to stick with their "tried and true" model with all its problems.
By my count, looking at Round 1 of the 2022 DCC 9-ball only, there were 236 players that lost their first match and 126 of them bought back, so 53% bought back.
Capping the field is OK, but the buyback is necessary in a tournament that is not seeded. An unseeded single elimination event would compromise the event for both fans and players. In other words, Gorst can draw Filler in Round 1 at the Derby but, thankfully, neither can be eliminated in that match. Nearly all pro speed players buy back, and those who play for the thrill of it often do not.
This fan wants the buyback to remain in place. It's a system that works.
Yep.
missed the rest of the thread?
Point well taken, JV. Seeding has its pluses and minuses.
Thank you kev. I couldn’t do it without a lot of enthusiastic students who trust me with their pool game. I appreciate the support.
It varies a little from year to year and event to event, but a good overall figure across the 3 events over time is that about two-thirds of the entrants use the buy-in option. It's generally a bit higher for 9-Ball Bank than for One-Pocket and 9-Ball.
I do know that the three point rule is out and break box backI can sign up online for the banks and one pocket but the 9 ball is showing 'out of stock'. They say they are capping at 400 entries. Is this online only or does this truly mean they are turning away players? If so this is totally new and going to be a big bummer as I have played for years and was planning a trip.
9-Ball Player Entry
9-Ball – January 25th, 2023 Players Meeting, Noon; Draw immediately following Match Play begins at 1:00 pm Total Purse, $77,500* approximate Guaranteed Added $25,000 Entry Fee $160** • Buy-In Option - $100 Single Elimination w/derbycityclassic.com
Yes, but I wasn't willing to put in the work to figure that out and clearly stated what I was presenting.
Yes, stu, what you said was clearly written. But I thought some people might misread it as an answer to what garczar posted. For example, the 53% figure you gave is, as you said, 53% of the losers in Round 1. So it was just half that as a percentage of the total entrants, or about 26½%. I imagine garczar's post related to his not knowing the overall percentage of the full field who eventually use the buy-in option. That 26½% figure after the first round rose to about 64% by the end of the event. I should have stated what I wrote differently, to clearly just be additional information rather than looking like a correction to what you wrote.
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Hope you were able to get in since it's one of the few tournaments you play every year. I'm hoping to make it out there next year.
I was surprised it filled up and got capped at 500, too. I meant to pre-register
for the 9 Ball, but it slipped my mind, because it took me from Thanksgiving
until early last Wednesday morning to get my room situation squared away. I
finally got my usual 6 nights(check in Monday and check out Sunday morning).
It all worked itself out, last Tuesday I'm on a waiting list for the 9 Ball and then
Wednesday I received a call letting me know that I was in. I love playing in the
9 Ball, but I was going whether I got in or not....it's all/more about the action
room(s) for me.
As OP stated, this year is a learning experience. From now on, I need to book
my room much earlier and go ahead a register for the 9 Ball at the same time.
for the 9 Ball, but it slipped my mind, because it took me from Thanksgiving
until early last Wednesday morning to get my room situation squared away. I
finally got my usual 6 nights(check in Monday and check out Sunday morning).
It all worked itself out, last Tuesday I'm on a waiting list for the 9 Ball and then
Wednesday I received a call letting me know that I was in. I love playing in the
9 Ball, but I was going whether I got in or not....it's all/more about the action
room(s) for me.
As OP stated, this year is a learning experience. From now on, I need to book
my room much earlier and go ahead a register for the 9 Ball at the same time.