Playing sober, can’t do it

I didn't find that CBD helped (I know they work well for some people), but I have found that weed gummies that I take to sleep, have also helped my shoulder, as they have an anti inflammatory quality to them. I have to drink a bit in order to play pool, as I have an old tear and some arthritis in my shoulder, alcohol helps numb the pain. Having to drink to play pool is definitely not conducive to playing day long tournaments though.
Turmeric supplements also help.
Alcohol is an inflammatory which is most likely doing more damage to your shoulder condition than good.
 
Has anyone tried CBD gummies instead? I’m experimenting with them playing golf, and I think they might have some merit.
A friend on my team tried these just a couple nights ago in an effort to drink less yet achieve the same "focus" while playing. She's pretty much an alchie. Ok, she's probably very much an alchie, and I have a sneaking suspicion she's starting to think I'm judging her holding it against her. Possibly for the simple fact that I've only ever been a 1, mayyyyybe 2 drink guy during league, myself.

So anyway, she say's to me in a text before league, "I'm trying gummies tonight no drinking. Testing this type so I can shoot without getting drunk, hoping these will focus me and relax me so my adrenaline doesn't give me a heart attack."

From her message I ascertain that she experiences the same nerves as the OP when she doesn't drink; i.e., "focus", "adrenaline / heart attack."...

I wasn't at league that night but I did respond to let me know how it goes... I'll have to follow-up and see if she did, and how it went.
 
It’s all in your head. You will actually play better sober if you really give it a go. It seems to me that you are just giving this a token effort. You have to buckle down and concentrate on kicking the alcohol just like buckling down and working on the game itself. Wish you the best!
It’s all in your head. You will actually play better sober if you really give it a go. It seems to me that you are just giving this a token effort. You have to buckle down and concentrate on kicking the alcohol just like buckling down and working on the game itself.
Freezing and tensing is succumbing to pressure or the self doubt in your mind. Either way, you have to break through the road block. Any setback as a result will only be temporary. Your mind/body knows what to do (how to play) they just need to be reconditioned to do it without the assistance of alcohol. Getting that inner voice out of your head will be tough at first because you haven't tasted success without drinking. Once you start, the self doubt will become less and less.
That's the plan. I'm 53 years young, however I don't know if I'll have another opportunity to complete in singles at this level again. I really want to do my best.
 
I didn't find that CBD helped (I know they work well for some people), but I have found that weed gummies that I take to sleep, have also helped my shoulder, as they have an anti inflammatory quality to them. I have to drink a bit in order to play pool, as I have an old tear and some arthritis in my shoulder, alcohol helps numb the pain. Having to drink to play pool is definitely not conducive to playing day long tournaments though.
Turmeric supplements also help.

Drinking and playing day long event is why I'm trying to change. Too hard to manage.
 
How long have you been drinking while competing? Like any bad habit the longer you have done it, the longer it takes to undo.

Switching one crutch for another doesn't make sense to me.

You made it six weeks, you're doing your best, you've committed to doing something different.
Give yourself a break. It will take time. It will ultimately make you a better player. I applaud you for taking a tough path, keep it rollin'.
I've been drinking and playing pool for 30 years. Most of the time it's no big deal. League night, 2-3 drinks, play, go home, easy. It's the day or multiple day long events that kill me. I don't like drinking all day just to be "in the zone". With APA nationals coming up I know I'll be playing day and night, no way can nor want to try and manage the perfect amount of drinks for that amount of time. We'll see what happens. LOL
 
Alcohol is an inflammatory which is most likely doing more damage to your shoulder condition than good.
I don't disagree with that at all. In the moment a couple of beers does help to numb the pain, so it is definitely a short term fix.
 
I've been drinking and playing pool for 30 years. Most of the time it's no big deal. League night, 2-3 drinks, play, go home, easy. It's the day or multiple day long events that kill me. I don't like drinking all day just to be "in the zone". With APA nationals coming up I know I'll be playing day and night, no way can nor want to try and manage the perfect amount of drinks for that amount of time. We'll see what happens. LOL
If you're talking about the one in August, you should be in good shape. Plenty of time to adjust between now and then.
By June you should be ready for a practice tournament or two to see where you're at.( Ex. $100 entry, fri-sunday.)
GL, kick asses!
 
End of April. Single nationals. Playing in the sl 9 bracket.
It will probably be tough. If you look at it like it's the first tournament of a new chapter, accept it won't be ideal, the next ones should come easier.

Have fun, enjoy playing different players than normal, and get rest when you can.
 
I've been drinking and playing pool for 30 years. Most of the time it's no big deal. League night, 2-3 drinks, play, go home, easy. It's the day or multiple day long events that kill me. I don't like drinking all day just to be "in the zone". With APA nationals coming up I know I'll be playing day and night, no way can nor want to try and manage the perfect amount of drinks for that amount of time. We'll see what happens. LOL
The reality of Vegas is that is that it can be a long day. You might play in the morning, and then not play again till that night. Or then you might play three in a row. Its hard to be able to plan eating, let alone managing other "stuff". When I went, I had one beer in the afternoon, then waited till later to even think about another, cuz you simply don't know how long you're gonna be there. Managing drinks for the whole day certainly can be done, but I sure didn't want to deal with it.
(I made up for it after we were done for the day, heh heh)

Regardless of how you end up dealing/managing this, I hope you enjoy yourself while you're out there, it is quite an event. I'm fortunate to have gone once, I hope to get back again at some point. Best of luck!

(*** edit*** I see that you're going for Singles... when I went, it was for teams. So your match times might be a bit more predictable than the team schedule was for us, I dunno. Hope so !)
 
How long have you been drinking while competing? Like any bad habit the longer you have done it, the longer it takes to undo.

Switching one crutch for another doesn't make sense to me.

You made it six weeks, you're doing your best, you've committed to doing something different.
Give yourself a break. It will take time. It will ultimately make you a better player. I applaud you for taking a tough path, keep it rollin'.
But it’s a really really fun crutch. 😜
 
I've been drinking and playing pool for 30 years. Most of the time it's no big deal. League night, 2-3 drinks, play, go home, easy. It's the day or multiple day long events that kill me. I don't like drinking all day just to be "in the zone". With APA nationals coming up I know I'll be playing day and night, no way can nor want to try and manage the perfect amount of drinks for that amount of time. We'll see what happens. LOL
I used to have the same thing. I don't recommend going deep into sports psychology (with a fixed timeframe for improving) because it can do more harm than good.

But a couple of things that helped me:
- A couple of warm-up racks just spreading out the 15 balls for easy, fairly short shots around the table (with no clusters) is a nice warm-up that gets your rhythm going
- I don't know whether you're currently playing every day, but if not then when you do (e.g., in the run-up to your tournament), it can give you a momentum that carries over day-to-day. (For me, the effect really hits from the fourth day of playing, and I find it best to have shorter sessions each day so I still feel fresh)

Both of these things, for me, provide some of the momentum and confidence that seems to come with a couple of drinks. You've got time to experiment with them if you want to.

Another thing that helps me is, when shooting, to focus on the rhythm of my swing (including warm-up strokes).

But overall, the objective is to relax and play, not to over-think it.
 
Funny, I usually see the opposite with good players, they play worse for the most part when drinking more, but the worst players improve a bit.
That reminds me of something I read about choking, but kind of the opposite:
Choking is supposedly the player's conscious mind trying to control/influence performance, due to pressure and anxiety about results.
It's harmful to performance for almost everyone (because the subconscious systems do it better), but for complete beginners, who haven't built up any of the experience that trains the subconscious, 'choking' can cause them to perform better.

I don't think there's really an inconsistency with what you're saying, because I think that effect was only found with complete novices. It just reminded me of it.

Panicking is the opposite problem, where under pressure, the brain grasps for very basic (clumsy) physical moves from the limbic system.
 
I used to have the same thing. I don't recommend going deep into sports psychology (with a fixed timeframe for improving) because it can do more harm than good.

But a couple of things that helped me:
- A couple of warm-up racks just spreading out the 15 balls for easy, fairly short shots around the table (with no clusters) is a nice warm-up that gets your rhythm going
- I don't know whether you're currently playing every day, but if not then when you do (e.g., in the run-up to your tournament), it can give you a momentum that carries over day-to-day. (For me, the effect really hits from the fourth day of playing, and I find it best to have shorter sessions each day so I still feel fresh)

Both of these things, for me, provide some of the momentum and confidence that seems to come with a couple of drinks. You've got time to experiment with them if you want to.

Another thing that helps me is, when shooting, to focus on the rhythm of my swing (including warm-up strokes).

But overall, the objective is to relax and play, not to over-think it.
I find the various hypnosis recordings helps with the mind game. Listen to the same one at least once a day(or more) for 2 weeks. You WILL see an improvement.
 
I'm a social binge drinker...don't drink hard alcohol but can hammer the beers. That being said as I turn my focus towards getting better at this sport..I've found myself really working hard to reduce my consumption and concentrate on just shooting.

It's been working..find it easier not to drink than worry about the wheels coming off the bus during a tournament.

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So obviously some of us opened up about our drinking, The OP, Easy E, and myself. For those of you who say it's so easy to just not drink, and you're only using it as a crutch or excuse, let's hear your addictions. Take a moment and think about it. May be over eating, sex/porn, drugs, etc. It's really easy to point out someone else's addiction when it's not your own.
 
I understand where the OP is coming from.

About the only time I drink is when playing pool. I play for fun and I drink for fun. After a few hours at the table I'm relaxed, in stroke and in peak form. I've shot my best pool and be in the money week after week at the local Saturday night tourney , buzzed.

However, that window doesn't stay open long enough for those long 12 to 20 hour tournaments.

Is it a crutch? No.
Habit? Sure. Playing pool and drinking some beer is what I like to do. I'm not like the op in that I can play fine while stone cold sober but can't get to that relaxed, focused ,in-the-zone state. My interest wanes and my focus wavers. It's just different.
 
I understand where the OP is coming from.

About the only time I drink is when playing pool. I play for fun and I drink for fun. After a few hours at the table I'm relaxed, in stroke and in peak form. I've shot my best pool and be in the money week after week at the local Saturday night tourney , buzzed.

However, that window doesn't stay open long enough for those long 12 to 20 hour tournaments.

Is it a crutch? No.
Habit? Sure. Playing pool and drinking some beer is what I like to do. I'm not like the op in that I can play fine while stone cold sober but can't get to that relaxed, focused ,in-the-zone state. My interest wanes and my focus wavers. It's just different.
I agree with this 100%
 
I have been sober for almost 7 years now from both drugs and alcohol and it was the hardest thing I ever did. I lost my identical twin brother to an overdose 4 years ago and that really put things into prospective.

Life is hard and there are lots of vices. Ultimately you have to do what's best for YOU and find ways to deal with life's everyday stresses. For me it's playing pool, golfing and playing poker but somedays I don't leave my house. I'm not as social as I used to be when I was partying. Life's kinda boring now but I can't have my parents losing another kid.
 
I have been sober for almost 7 years now from both drugs and alcohol and it was the hardest thing I ever did. I lost my identical twin brother to an overdose 4 years ago and that really put things into prospective.

Life is hard and there are lots of vices. Ultimately you have to do what's best for YOU and find ways to deal with life's everyday stresses. For me it's playing pool, golfing and playing poker but somedays I don't leave my house. I'm not as social as I used to be when I was partying. Life's kinda boring now but I can't have my parents losing another kid.
I agree on the boring part, but the biggest difference for me is my body is in much better shape. I'm working out again 3-4 times a week. Also, I'm saving so much money from not drinking. Between drinks at dinner, and then going out to the bar/pool hall afterwards, I could easily spend $200-$300 in a night.

Also, very sorry about your brother.
 
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