Should Cuemakers show Their Cuemaker Tree Diagram???

JoeyInCali said:
A maker should have a great idea how the cue will play after the butt has been assembled and in near final size.
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They shouldn't be making cues if they're not coming out with a solid hit -- however, to imply that there's something special about a cue in production because they "can just tell" is, to me, just hype and an attempt to give the guy who's been waiting way past his promised delivery date a warm wet feeling and not much else.

Lou Figueroa
 
lfigueroa said:
They shouldn't be making cues if they're not coming out with a solid hit -- however, to imply that there's something special about a cue in production because they "can just tell" is, to me, just hype and an attempt to give the guy who's been waiting way past his promised delivery date a warm wet feeling and not much else.

Lou Figueroa
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Maybe.
But, if your wood of choice ( including the handle ) makes for a great combination that doesn't require much added weight ( or none at all ) and he happened to have picked you nice pieces, it should hit great unless he butchered the assembly somewhere.
Now , if you picked some burlwood front plus lacewood handle and you wanted it to be around some 20+ oz, he's stretching a bit. 😂
 
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SpiderWebComm said:
I remember from a good number of posts over the years when talking about cues that you always used a 19.25 oz. cue.
Was he able to match that accurately or is it good at whatever weight it came out at?
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wow. You know what weight I like my cues at... kinda weird.

So, to answer your question, over the years my weight preference has gone down a bit to 19oz or just under. This particular cue came in at 18.5.

Now let's go to the Lighting Round: what balance point to I prefer?

Lou Figueroa
 
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lfigueroa said:
wow. You know what weight I like my cues at... kinda weird.
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Trust me when I say it...you aren't my idol nor would I ever want to be you or like you. I have a great memory.
Unfortunately, it's sometimes for stupid worthless bullshit such as this.
lfigueroa said:
So, to answer your question, over the years my weight preference has gone down a bit to 19oz or just under. This particular cue came in at 18.5.

Now let's go to the Lighting Round: what balance point to I prefer?
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I'm more familiar with your "imbalance points". JB & CTE. (Lou now getting lightheaded and walking crooked) LOL
 
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Charts like that are misleading, and they encourage people to make assumptions without facts about a cuemaker's style. Talent and creativity will always be individual traits. Only the cuemaker himself has the right to give credit to another for any aspect of what he learned.
 
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SpiderWebComm said:
Trust me when I say it...you aren't my idol nor would I ever want to be you or like you. I have a great memory.
Unfortunately, it's sometimes for stupid worthless bullshit such as this.

I'm more familiar with your "imbalance points". JB & CTE. (Lou now getting lightheaded and walking crooked) LOL
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Stinky bait.

Lou Figueroa
 
How much better or worse is the "HIT and PLAYABILITY" once the cue maker is known, their reputation in the hierarchy of cue makers, what woods are used, if it's ornate or plain, etc.? How great are the expectations and bragging rights involved with one of their cues for buyers/owners and other players who don't own one?

Does it in fact make it a better playing cue or feel better than a factory cue? Cuetec has won a lot of tournaments and money for a few players. So has Meucci, Schon, McDermott, Joss, Lucasi, Adam, Falcon, etc.

I've seen some incredible games played with one piece cues straight off the wall rack. Just sayin'.
 
lfigueroa said:
wow. You know what weight I like my cues at... kinda weird.

So, to answer your question, over the years my weight preference has gone down a bit to 19oz or just under. This particular cue came in at 18.5.

Now let's go to the Lighting Round: what balance point to I prefer?

Lou Figueroa
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I'm guessing 19" from the bottom of a 29" butt.
From my observation, elbow droppers like lighter and rear weighted cues.
Short strokers with light grip like forward balanced sticks.
 
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FranCrimi said:
Charts like that are misleading, and they encourage people to make assumptions without facts about a cuemaker's style. Talent and creativity will always be individual traits. Only the cuemaker himself has the right to give credit to another for any aspect of what he learned.
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Only What a Cuemakers want you to know/ mention!!! Apprenticeship today might not be the correct definition, because of what is available on internet today. That why cue maker should make their own cuemaker tree. ....... For Those Cue Collectors!!!

But Then articles written about cuemakers might be misleading. Because they don't want to admitted where they got their knowledge... Asking, watching, listening to other!!!

But each Az Member to their only opinion!

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JoeyInCali said:
Maybe.
But, if your wood of choice ( including the handle ) makes for a great combination that doesn't require much added weight ( or none at all ) and he happened to have picked you nice pieces, it should hit great unless he butchered the assembly somewhere.
Now , if you picked some burlwood front plus lacewood handle and you wanted it to be around some 20+ oz, he's stretching a bit. 😂
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Dieckman cues were all natural balance, only the joint pin was metal
 
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JoeyInCali said:
I'm guessing 19" from the bottom of a 29" butt.
From my observation, elbow droppers like lighter and rear weighted cues.
Short strokers with light grip like forward balanced sticks.
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hmmm, OK.

But given these factors I'm not so sure if the dog wags the tail or the tail wags the dog

Lou Figueroa
 
lfigueroa said:
wow. You know what weight I like my cues at... kinda weird.

So, to answer your question, over the years my weight preference has gone down a bit to 19oz or just under. This particular cue came in at 18.5.

Now let's go to the Lighting Round: what balance point to I prefer?

Lou Figueroa
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19.25"?
 
lfigueroa said:
Well, yah.

That's what I found I liked and had a couple of cues (Ginas and some others) made to that spec. In my dotage I find I can play well with a slightly lighter cue.

Lou Figueroa
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That is where I ended up as well Lou. Cue weight around 18.8, with balance between 19, and 19.25. I don't know why. I've tried several different set-ups, and this combination of weight/balance point, seems to require the least amount of effort to weild, especially over extended periods of time. When I am dropping the cue into shot placement, it just feels right. Now, if I were only smart enough to know why.
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j2pac said:
That is where I ended up as well Lou. Cue weight around 18.8, with balance between 19, and 19.25. I don't know why. I've tried several different set-ups, and this combination of weight/balance point, seems to require the least amount of effort to weild, especially over extended periods of time. When I am dropping the cue into shot placement, it just feels right. Now, if I were only smart enough to know why.
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oh my, isn't that the question we all ask ourselves.

I have found, over the years, that sometimes a cue -- because of its balance and feel (not the tip) -- is just... right. It's a very elusive thing and when you find a good one you should stick with it. To this day I remember going into The Palace late one night in SF and a guy walking up to me and offering a walnut merry widow cue with a SS joint. I screwed it together and I swear it just seemed to float in my hands when I got into shooting position. He wanted $50 and I was short on cash... still think about it.

Lou Figueroa
damn it
 
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